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Offline FLOOB

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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2015, 02:13:03 PM »
Long guns are legal to carry openly.

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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2015, 02:24:46 PM »
Long guns are legal to carry openly.

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those look so much like those that were open carrying at waco a couple of days ago.


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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2015, 03:08:56 PM »
See Rule #14
« Last Edit: May 21, 2015, 06:12:15 AM by Skuzzy »
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2015, 03:47:56 PM »
Essentially they want to restrict your rights to protect themselves from their fears.

And you're essentially saying you trust the impulse control of every person you walk past on the street.

I'm all for concealed carry as long as you check out/train, not a fan of open carry in cities.  Nobody'll change anybody's mind either way, IBTL.

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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2015, 04:20:03 PM »
See Rule #14
« Last Edit: May 21, 2015, 06:12:58 AM by Skuzzy »
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2015, 04:35:18 PM »
Hoplophobia is rampant these days.
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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2015, 04:46:06 PM »
...stuff.

What I'm afraid of or not and what I think is a good idea or not are two completely separate things.  Your idea of 'people being people' is obviously different from mine.  That's all that needs to be said.

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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2015, 05:37:35 PM »
What I'm afraid of or not and what I think is a good idea or not are two completely separate things.  Your idea of 'people being people' is obviously different from mine.  That's all that needs to be said.

Wiley.

And so the convoluting carry's on. What you are afraid of is the source of your idea because fear is subjective. You cannot separate them so as to shield yourself from saying you are afraid of your fellow humans, and more so if they are armed. Your idea could not exist if first you were not afraid of your fellow humans.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2015, 05:39:37 PM »
Dang! I guess everyone missed the assumption. :neener:
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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2015, 07:15:54 PM »
I've heard this reasoning before, you assume that if one guy with a gun sees another guy with a gun they will each think the other is a bad guy.
 Has it ever actually happened, that one bad guy caused multiple people to draw their weapons and then everyone shots each other to bits?

Very rarely do armed crimes and gun carrying citizens meet. Certainly not in large enough scale for this to occur (thus far). But it does demonstrate the flaw in the argument that "if everyone had a gun, the criminals couldn't get away with it".

Usually with shootings, their intent seems to be to simply kill people, not get away with it. Add in people in street clothes packing heat, whipping out their glocks, or whatever they have, and you've got chaos.

I don't know about you, but even if I have a gun, I have a strong disinclination to being around other people I don't know who also have guns. Especially if there's a shooting in progress. There might be multiple shooters, a single one, he might have associates in another location, and I can't be sure if the yahoo across the street is just some yahoo exercising his right to open carry, or a shooter.

If I had the choice, I'm gonna get the hell out of there. If I'm forced to stay, I'm finding a corner and assuming anyone approaching with a gun is hostile. Especially if my girlfriend is with me.

Add on top of that unarmed people even less likely to be thinking clearly, and they're going to be running from anyone with a gun. They're going to crowd exits even worse, some will no doubt blunder into the real danger trying to escape the overzealous Texan in the crowd.


Guns and an armed populace have their place and their purpose. Serving as their own law enforcement is not one of them.
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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2015, 07:25:53 PM »
And so the convoluting carry's on. What you are afraid of is the source of your idea because fear is subjective. You cannot separate them so as to shield yourself from saying you are afraid of your fellow humans, and more so if they are armed. Your idea could not exist if first you were not afraid of your fellow humans.

I reiterate.  I do not fear them.  However, I do not trust a high enough percentage of the general population to not do monumentally stupid stuff on occasion.  I am sorry you do not see the distinction.

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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2015, 07:29:10 PM »
Open carry here in Mississippi . See it all the time . I have to open carry mine for I have not had the 150 bucks for my OCP . There good for five years tho . I rather carry concealed but until then it has to be in the open .
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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2015, 08:18:01 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2015, 08:42:43 PM »
No toejam but hunting with a firearm is legal in texas but carrying one isn't.
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Re: Open carry Texas
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2015, 08:50:13 PM »
Fear of personal mortality will never let them agree you have a right to bare arms.


I think everyone agrees that Wiley has a right to bare arms.  Hey, if Ink gets involved, Wiley's bare arms could be artistic.

That said, you haven't addressed the issue of why anyone would want to open carry (except as Widewing noted, if you're hiking).  It makes you a target.  It scares women and children.  It steers others to join the Brady Center.  What in the world does the carrier get out of it in return, except perhaps a sense of pride that translates to "Hey, look at me!  I have a real gun!  And a Three Wolf Moon t-shirt!  Arnold Schwarzenegger is my best bud!  Want to have a drink?"

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