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Offline guncrasher

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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2015, 02:03:53 AM »
Quote from: ink on May 25, 2015, 01:52:12 AM
oh hell no you didnt :furious


you pull out a link on me.....da neuve












I was actually thinking about xP :o


durp

if he wants to get technical just look into why 4gb  card actually dont have 4gb.  actually neither do the 1gb or the 2gb.  they alway seem to have a little less.  I think a 4k it's a bit closer to 3.73 than to 4.


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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2015, 04:32:27 AM »
Quote from: ink on May 25, 2015, 01:52:12 AM
oh hell no you didnt :furious


you pull out a link on me.....da neuve

I was actually thinking about xP :o


durp



The same link contains the same exact information about XP. Perhaps you should study the subject a bit before posting? Same goes to semp. We're talking about the memory subsystem limitations, not practical availability after bios addressing etc.

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The following table specifies the limits on physical memory for Windows XP.
Version                                      Limit on X86   Limit on X64   Limit on IA64
Windows XP                               4 GB                128 GB                  128 GB (not supported)
Windows XP Starter Edition                512 MB              N/A                   N/A

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How graphics cards and other devices affect memory limits

Devices have to map their memory below 4 GB for compatibility with non-PAE-aware Windows releases. Therefore, if the system has 4GB of RAM, some of it is either disabled or is remapped above 4GB by the BIOS. If the memory is remapped, X64 Windows can use this memory. X86 client versions of Windows don’t support physical memory above the 4GB mark, so they can’t access these remapped regions. Any X64 Windows or X86 Server release can.
X86 client versions with PAE enabled do have a usable 37-bit (128 GB) physical address space. The limit that these versions impose is the highest permitted physical RAM address, not the size of the IO space. That means PAE-aware drivers can actually use physical space above 4 GB if they want. For example, drivers could map the "lost" memory regions located above 4 GB and expose this memory as a RAM disk.
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2015, 02:30:32 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2015, 02:47:18 PM »
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2015, 12:51:35 AM »
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2015, 01:48:48 AM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2015, 03:39:16 AM »
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2015, 10:46:05 AM »
Quote from: MrRiplEy[H] on May 24, 2015, 12:28:36 PM
The 32-bit memory subsystem can't handle anything beyond 4Gb without PAE and PAE is basically disabled in consumer versions of Windows since most 32-bit device drivers can't handle it.

I remember back in win98 and XP, we had to fiddle around with the PAE and even run special .bat files to have use of more ram for our autocad and load calculating programs, back when I was able to work...... kind of miss working and doing that stuff, not using the brain functions using those programs/software for over 6 years , I can see and realize the toll it has taken on my memory.....

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save your money for a new build, go ahead and upgrade to Win 7 64 bit ( the home premium version minimum, but I would recommend the Win 7 pro 64 bit minimum personally, since home premium tops out at 16 GB of sys ram )

I have some spare sticks of 1 GB and 2 GB DDR2 memory , if you need a couple.......... shoot me a pm

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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2015, 12:04:46 PM »
Quote from: TequilaChaser on May 26, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
I have some spare sticks of 1 GB and 2 GB DDR2 memory , if you need a couple.......... shoot me a pm

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Grab that offer, increase your ram to the 8 GB max your current rig can handle, install the 64 bit version of Win7, overclock your processor a little (or get a second hand better one for next to nothing) and enjoy that until we see what the new AH version will require.
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2015, 11:03:53 PM »
Quote from: TequilaChaser on May 26, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
I remember back in win98 and XP, we had to fiddle around with the PAE and even run special .bat files to have use of more ram for our autocad and load calculating programs, back when I was able to work...... kind of miss working and doing that stuff, not using the brain functions using those programs/software for over 6 years , I can see and realize the toll it has taken on my memory.....

back to the topic:

save your money for a new build, go ahead and upgrade to Win 7 64 bit ( the home premium version minimum, but I would recommend the Win 7 pro 64 bit minimum personally, since home premium tops out at 16 GB of sys ram )

I have some spare sticks of 1 GB and 2 GB DDR2 memory , if you need a couple.......... shoot me a pm

TC

I have 4 sticks of 2GB RAM each, if he could use them.  I believe they're G-Skill.
Can't beet the price (free)

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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2015, 10:53:59 AM »
my bad, I should have said my offer was "FREE" as well, I should not have assumed all AH players already knew that....

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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2015, 11:26:37 AM »
Quote from: TequilaChaser on May 27, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
my bad, I should have said my offer was "FREE" as well, I should not have assumed all AH players already knew that....

TC

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I knew you meant free TC.   :cheers:

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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2015, 02:27:47 PM »
Thanks TC and Coogan. I'm out of town for a few days will get in touch when I get home.  :salute
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2015, 01:27:30 AM »
ok I've decided to go with 7 but have a question. When I get the disk can I format and partition my hard drive with it? I do know that I have to format the drive to get a "clean" install, am I right?

Turns out xp isn't seeing all the memory actually installed.
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Re: Which OS to upgrade to
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2015, 08:33:10 AM »
Quote from: ML52 on July 02, 2015, 01:27:30 AM
ok I've decided to go with 7 but have a question. When I get the disk can I format and partition my hard drive with it? I do know that I have to format the drive to get a "clean" install, am I right?

Turns out xp isn't seeing all the memory actually installed.

Yes, you can create however many partitions you want and format them,, etc... With the Win7 disc

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