Sometimes FineTime doesnt go by the book

[Wizz]

Log on and complete my greetings to everyone on cybro's vox channel 149. Ask whats the sitrep and 3 people respond back "defense." Well FineTime's best defense is a good offense. Call for a 27 mile drive for an m3 around a mountain and deack of base and town. After 1st attempt bish resupped  the twn while the deack was completed. Guns down 2 hours.

On my 2nd attempt i brought the m3 to a barn just outside of town as i passed over town holding ords. With a perfect line up from town to base i 1st dropped the VH. Now i have 6 bish planes and 3 GV's on the base.

My first pass on town was clean and scored a kill in a whirble. My 2nd pass came exactly 51 seconds later at 125mph 3 flaps and wep. After WF i nosed down and dragged 4 with me. 5th joined after i shot down 2 of their birds. Greed got the best of the bish as the only defender of town bit on me.

I eventually am shot down as 3 friendlies make it to town. We take the base. Bish immediately deacked. Within 15 minutes they took the base back with a horde of M3's.

The point was to never hold the base. After securing 2 bases prior to logging in rooks a were left defending those bases. Although we did not hold onto 51 for very long we took all the pressure off our southern flank and tied up half the Bish Army for an hour. Just this act alone brought the fight over to the bish/knight front on the other side of the map. No resup surrounded by knights and Bish bases. Complete success in the face of extreme odds! Things like this are what drives me to keep coming back.

[JOACH1M]

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[Zimme83]

So point is that you guys took a base that you lost in 15 mins...
  

[pembquist]

I'm glad people have a good time in the game. The only thing that caught my eye was the term Bish Army. I often hear people discussing the other countries as if they were some how a unified force with coherent strategy. "What are they up too?" Feints, counter feints, counter counter feints. My impression of, or how I would describe the reality of it all is that its like a bunch of demented geese with ADD and a taste for cranberry interspersed with a few teams of Holstiens driven across the pasture by napolean complexed farmers with hearing problems and then the occasional small groups of autonomous killer drones flying in formation. And then there are the drunks.

[Ack-Ack]

Sounds like the Rookies didn't have a very good tactical plan that included taking out the troops/supplies at nearby bases to prevent the Bishop recapture.

[Wizz]

The best thing that happened was the base going right back.

[eddiek]

And for a different perspective of things:
Bish and Nits have/had a fight or furrball going between A19(Bish) and A18/V22(Nits) for two days now.  Not any really serious attempts to take the bases, just folks flying and driving around getting kills.
As to A51, several of us had been around and over the town, and no one saw the GV's, thus the surprise when the base capture came.  I'm guessing from the OP's post that they used M3's? 
Yeah, we saw the B17's go over (at the time I was at 9K and you were showing as 6K above that), I saw more cons coming in from the N, diverted that way, tangled with two Yaks (one -7 and one -3).  With me in a 410, that lasted all of 30 seconds.  I upped in an 88 position to drive off any potential vulchers, was firing away at them and POOF! "Base 51 has been captured by the Rooks".  Along with several folks on range asking how they got in when we had people over the town.
All in all it was fun.  Losing a base bothers me not at all.  The fact that there were fights taking place is encouraging, almost reminds me of the old days in the arenas when some bases might get captured, but more often than not it was about just getting in there and mixing it up.
<S> to all those involved. 

[Threeup]

I'm glad people have a good time in the game. The only thing that caught my eye was the term Bish Army. I often hear people discussing the other countries as if they were some how a unified force with coherent strategy. "What are they up too?" Feints, counter feints, counter counter feints. My impression of, or how I would describe the reality of it all is that its like a bunch of demented geese with ADD and a taste for cranberry interspersed with a few teams of Holstiens driven across the pasture by napolean complexed farmers with hearing problems and then the occasional small groups of autonomous killer drones flying in formation. And then there are the drunks.

I haven't looked at it in those terms, but thinking about it you're absolutely correct.

[hgtonyvi]

 

[Wizz]

I haven't looked at it in those terms, but thinking about it you're absolutely correct.

Well i see no argument in that....


Bish day shift is a different kind of machine. They run buffs constantly to strats and bases,they defend and resupply very well at bases they own,  and work like a school of fish. Responsible for repeated complete disregard for all strategy simply dominating with overwhelming force. They showed all of this at 51 as i suspected they would. The object was to draw away the players from a base we were defending all the way on another front and it that worked. The fact that we took the base was nothing short of perfection the way it was done.

Its not everyday that each decision you make is the right one in the face of such diversity. If i were to tell you im going to take 4 guys to an enemy base and capture it against +12 fighters, 6 or more gv's defending and resupping, and city strat %100 would you have believed me?

By loosing the base afterwords Rook had no obligation to that base. I've seen bases like this kill any momentum and turn into a huge furball. Thus, Bish army had to reset their counter attack on the southen flank! Brilliant strategy and it worked!!!

[Wizz]

I get that a lot of people active in the forums do not care about strategy or anything like that. For those people who come into this thread i say your welcome to voice your 2 cents and i will leave it at that. I am sharing this story so that the sticks that do sometimes focus on strategy might read this and try the same thing or maybe doing something a little different that works for them in the same situation. Rather than defending a base sometimes its better to attack the enemy's flank. You kill 2 birds with one stone.  A lot of times you wont take the base. We could have easily given up after the bish resupped the town the first time. Im thinking about playing the lottery after this one to be honest. Just shifting the focus of the enemy works well when the is no central command and the game just flows.

[Wizz]

and before a few guys who i could mention start flamig this thread saying im tooting my own horn....

thats not my intention.

I will give you some flame material though i gotta give you haterz some love.

This was base take # 27 in a row over a 3 day time period.
Thats 27 base takes without a single failure.


When you are this good by putting in so much time doing the same thing over and over again it sets you up for that type of success a small number of players including myself are having. 

[Zimme83]

However I do see some problems if your offensive defence require a 27 mile M3 ride. A lot of bad things can happen in the hour it takes to get the M3 in position.
But its fun to sneak a base when it work.

[pipz]

Keep having fun Wiz! Huzzah!! 

[Wizz]

However I do see some problems if your offensive defence require a 27 mile M3 ride. A lot of bad things can happen in the hour it takes to get the M3 in position.
But its fun to sneak a base when it work.

Aint that the truth Zimme. Im lucky to have someone willing to commit that kind of time when so many bad things can happen.

49Dundee is one of the best! He is my trusted go to guy everytime for troops. m3 is extremely hard to detect, does not give out an icon on the map, and can hide in barns. Goons are what people will expect in this situation which is why I gave dundee the call and he always answers!