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Offline Lab Rat 3947

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« on: June 08, 2015, 10:06:26 PM »
got a virus and did a restore. now ESET won't work. I can't delete the file. I can't activate the program and their customer support is a POS.
Can anyone tell me how to get rid of this program.
when I try to delete is says the it is in use/ disk full/ protected.
I can't even rename this POS.
The ESET downloader stops everytime saying it has encountered a problem.
nothing in the "support emails" (LOL) does any good.
I was told to hit "update" but "update" doesn't show up in the opening dialog box where they say it will be.

Can anybody help me.
ESET support isn't any help and I don't see any reason to renew a program that doesn't work.


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Re: ESET
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 11:39:07 PM »
Did you forget to create the Rescue CD after your first installation? (rhetorical question)
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Re: ESET
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2015, 12:19:30 AM »
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Did you forget to create the Rescue CD after your first installation? (rhetorical question)

have no idea what you are referring to, never heard of it
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Re: ESET
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 01:06:56 AM »
have no idea what you are referring to, never heard of it

He means a Backup and Restore Disk. It is always a priority have if not make one at times when a potential threat(such as a virus or spyware) harms your system in case.
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Re: ESET
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 01:45:05 AM »
Your virus is still active,  first thing they do is disable av..


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Re: ESET
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 06:38:31 AM »
What semp said.  Once your computer has a virus, it will disable any anti-xxxx software running on it.
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Re: ESET
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 08:08:19 AM »
so a backup does not work ? And a system restore does not work ?
then will formatting my hard drive & reloading my OS will be my only option ?

or do I have to by a new hard drive.

it sounds as though I have to buy a new hard drive

I am asking these questions in earnest as I really don't know the answers
« Last Edit: June 09, 2015, 08:10:42 AM by Lab Rat 3947 »
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Re: ESET
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 08:09:17 AM »
If you've run Windows Restore, going back to a date when your system was supposedly clean, that alone can and often will cause your antivirus to malfunction. Antivirus programs rely heavily on correct date and time and since System Restore takes the system back in time there'll easily be conflicting time stamps. Usually that means you'd have to totally clean the program of your system and either reinstall it or replace it with some other antivirus. For Eset, the manual uninstall instructions and link to the uninstaller program are here: http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2289.

Of course the best solution after a virus attack is always to do a clean install of the entire operating system (of course after saving your photos and other irreplaceable data), but if that is out of the question, there's a bunch of other things you can do.

First things first: Was that a virus or simply an aggressive marketing program you got? What were the symptoms? Marketing programs can be quite persistent, but they seldom break anything. As they're not actually viruses, most antivirus programs won't necessarily notice them. Eset has a check box for PUA (potentially unwanted applications) leaving it up to you either welcome adware as a consumer aid or consider them as malware. What was your choice?

If you got a "real" virus, a bootable virus cleaner is what you need. Something like F-Secure Rescue CD or Kaspersky Rescue Disk should do the trick. There's a lot more of them, these two are what I've been using. See https://www.raymond.cc/blog/13-antivirus-rescue-cds-software-compared-in-search-for-the-best-rescue-disk/ for alternatives. You can also get an antivirus scanner to boot from an USB stick, google for "bootable virus scanner usb".

After having cleaned your system from outside with one or more bootable scanners, start cleaning from within Windows. At first reset all of your Internet browsers including Internet Explorer. Then get some cleaners. Start with RKill to stop any malware running: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/rkill/. From the download site you'll also find links to AdwCleaner and Junkware Removal Tool, both of which are quite fast. ComboFix makes a more thorough job, the best part being that it can fix many settings changed by malware. Another great tool is Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, https://www.malwarebytes.org/mwb-download/ which I recommend running in any case.

Last but not least, if every cleaner says your system should be clean and you've double checked your browsers' start pages and add-ons but you still find yourself on a marketing search site, right click the icons for every browser in every location and choose "Properties". On the Icon tab, Target window it should only read "C:\Program Files (x86)\<YourBrowser>\<yourbrowser>.exe". If you find any net address after the last quotation mark, simply remove it.

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Re: ESET
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2015, 10:27:39 AM »
What semp said.  Once your computer has a virus, it will disable any anti-xxxx software running on it.

so AV programs arnt designed to prevent this?
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Re: ESET
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2015, 11:00:40 AM »
so AV programs arnt designed to prevent this?

AV programs are just a method to gain false confidence. They regularly get owned by the attackers.
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Re: ESET
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2015, 11:27:39 AM »
so AV programs arnt designed to prevent this?
Think about it the military way: When they added armor to tanks, someone invented armor penetrating ammo. So they thickened the armor, slanted it and made it of harder steel. Result: The opponent designed more powerful weapons to penetrate the armor. Everything that has been made can be broken. Every program can be cracked.

The "good" thing with modern viruses is that they try to break things as little as possible to minimize their footprint, making them harder to find. On the positive side I'd also count that known viruses are relatively easy to remove, especially with a bootable tool. There's exceptions, of course, but then again there's very few viruses to survive a total clean install including wiping the hard disk.

I'm more concerned about the marketing stuff, often erraneously called viruses, too. Adware, crapware, greyware, scareware, spyware, you name it can easily make a top notch computer crawl. Search results sorted by who pays best, pop up windows, underlined trigger words on every site, regular scans resulting a warning about poor performance etc. The procedure to get rid of them takes numerous hours, just look at the instructions in my previous post.

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Re: ESET
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2015, 11:39:08 AM »
so AV programs arnt designed to prevent this?

Any anti-xxx program is only as good as its last update and even then, it will immediately be behind again.  They are always one step behind virus creators.

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Re: ESET
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2015, 11:59:19 AM »
what ghost or mirror programs you recommend?
(make a bootable copy[on another HD] of current HD)
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Re: ESET
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2015, 12:33:31 PM »
what ghost or mirror programs you recommend?
(make a bootable copy[on another HD] of current HD)
Windows' own backup does a decent job. A backup takes much less space than a mirror copy. If you want a clone of your current hard disk, both Seagate (DiscWizard) and Western Digital (Acronis) offer a free program as long as one of the hard disks is of their make.

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Re: ESET
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2015, 12:48:10 PM »
Windows' own backup does a decent job. A backup takes much less space than a mirror copy. If you want a clone of your current hard disk, both Seagate (DiscWizard) and Western Digital (Acronis) offer a free program as long as one of the hard disks is of their make.

well like skuzzy said, the virus people cant attack a clone drive.
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