any old school ford guys?

[CAP1]

Actually, the Boss 302 was meant to be a drag racer.  It had lousy low end performance.  You had to get the engine to 5,000 RPM before it came to life.  It was a horrible street car.

The Mustangs were not known for handling either.  Even the Shelby version of the Mustangs involved a strictly brute force approach to handling.  They just put big enough sway bars and harsh enough springs on it to keep the body from rolling, but then they bounced all over the place on anything but the smoothest streets.

 not a drag racer, but rather for the trans am series.

[CAP1]

We are talking about the original 69 Boss 302.  Not the new one.  The original was okay for its time, but in the real world, it was used at the drag strip, not the road races.

I raced against plenty of them at the drag strip.  Never saw one of them on the road course.

Even the old car rags made comments like, "best handling car Ford has made", which was not a really great endorsement considering Ford's street cars were not the best handling cars around, at the time.

Now, I grant you this.  Ford originally intended the car to be a fit for the Trans Am race category, but quietly quit pushing it.  Although Ford never did get around to offering the "Drag Pak" option for the Boss, but did offer it with the 428CJ.

It was an odd car in the real world.  No matter what Ford intended.

 the original boss302 was brought about to beat the 302 camaros on the trans am circuit. which i believe it did with relative ease. till the boss302, ford had nothing to compete with the camaros after 67 if i recall. it wasn't really intended as a drag racer, although geared properly, it worked well on the drag strips. get that puppy screaming through the turns though? oooooohhhhhhhh baby!!

[icepac]

Do not try to put a modern ford modular 4v motor in a 67 mustang.

I've done a couple and you have to remove the shock towers.

If you want wow factor, try the fold down rear seats for a start.

[SIK1]

Iirc Penske's Camaro's won Trans Am in '69. Ford won it in '70, and Penske won it again in '71. In an AMC Javelin. 

[RotBaron]

Not sure about the circles you run about in 

I guess the kind that aren't self-professed experts in everything cars.

Really, there has been a huge enough debate in the car world and that you guys spend that much time on this stuff to decide that only one certain model of one car is the appropriate rival of another maker's car, while it's way out of line to compare the other model?

[RotBaron]

Can I borrow some of your guys time? I'll give it back unharmed at a later date when I don't need it so much.

[CAP1]

Do not try to put a modern ford modular 4v motor in a 67 mustang.

I've done a couple and you have to remove the shock towers.

If you want wow factor, try the fold down rear seats for a start.

 they came factory with fold down seats.

 you remove the shock towers, make the engine bay much cleaner, and have a much more effecient engine under the hood, while maintaining the outward appearance.

Iirc Penske's Camaro's won Trans Am in '69. Ford won it in '70, and Penske won it again in '71. In an AMC Javelin. 

i stand corrected.

[Skuzzy]

CAP1. the Penske team Camaro won Trans Am in 69.  70 Ford won.

The only thing the "Boss 302 Trans Am" engine shared with the Boss 302 was the block.  The "Trans Am" was fitted with the heads from the 351C, which happened to make its debut in 69 as well.

The Boss 302 heads were too weak to race.  The guys that used those heads, in race cars, had to put, at least, two pins behind the combustion chamber to help prevent cracks as the castings were too thin to take the high compression stress of racing.

Yes, Ford created the 302 so they could use a 302 engine in the Trans Am series.  That is about the only thing one can take from the "Boss 302" to the "Boss 302 Trans Am".

I guess the kind that aren't self-professed experts in everything cars.

Really, there has been a huge enough debate in the car world and that you guys spend that much time on this stuff to decide that only one certain model of one car is the appropriate rival of another maker's car, while it's way out of line to compare the other model?

I worked for Ford, for about 15 years.  The Corvette has always outclassed anything Ford ever had to offer.  Corvette guys love to rub that in.  To try and compare a 60's era Mustang to a 60's era Corvette can only lead to embarrassment for the Mustang owner.

[Masherbrum]

I guess the kind that aren't self-professed experts in everything cars.

Really, there has been a huge enough debate in the car world and that you guys spend that much time on this stuff to decide that only one certain model of one car is the appropriate rival of another maker's car, while it's way out of line to compare the other model?

You are the only one in this thread acting like those of whom you mock.  You are also misinformed.

[-ammo-]

Recently, I saw a 67 fastback modernized with a modular 5.0 and chassis/suspension on a youtube channel (can't remember which).  Granted, the guy had a lot of money in the car but it was competitive in road races against all comers.  I'll see if I can find it.

[Skuzzy]

He must have caved up those shock towers something fierce to wedge a 5.0 modular engine into that narrow engine bay.

Or he completely gutted the front suspension and went custom the entire way.  Would be interesting.

I mean, the 65 Cobra had a 427 big block in it.  Every Cobra car kit on the market can accept that big engine, but very few kits can accept the 5.0 modular engine without a lot of cutting in the engine bay.  It is a big motor.

[-ammo-]

I'll find it

[SFRT - Frenchy]

I'll find it

You and I probably subscribe to the same chanels 

[SFRT - Frenchy]

No one likes old school pontiacs? Lol

I do I do 
I'm an equal opportunity fun grabber. I have Fords, Mopars and Pontiac in my garage. Even an old Brit 

[CAP1]

You and I probably subscribe to the same chanels 

 they called it a 68 in the beginning. the instrument cluster, and the side vents behind the doors both say 67.

 the tiny steering wheel is stupid.

 also...the fit of the body panels is horrible. door gap, hood not latching properly..........who the hell built that??