LA7 Usage: WWII vs. AH

[Randy1]

I had suggested before that eny calculation be partially tied to ww2 actual usage but the "Don't tell me what to fly." people had a field day with that one.

[PR3D4TOR]

I'm not surprised they didn't want a little Napoleon limiting their use of a game.

[Randy1]

It really gets down to the balance of a game and simulation.  Very touchy as you can see.

[PR3D4TOR]

WWII actual usage has nothing to do with balancing a game. AH is not a WWII simulator. It's air-quake with WWII equipment.

[Lusche]

If AH wanted to reflect actual WWII usage the Ostwind would have a perk price going through the roof 

[Randy1]

If AH wanted to reflect actual WWII usage the Ostwind would have a perk price going through the roof 

Looking at the statistics for this tour, I am not sure many people would care.

WWII actual usage has nothing to do with balancing a game. AH is not a WWII simulator. It's air-quake with WWII equipment.

Per HTC, "Aces High is a massive multi-player online combat simulation centered around the World War II air-war."

[PR3D4TOR]

Oh? Who won WWII then, bish, rook or knit?

[PR3D4TOR]

... also is exactly what aces high main arena play does, it tries to accurately produce a simulation of WWII equipment. And does not try to simulate wwii. WWII was already been fought. We simply make a game that use wwii equipment.

As I have stated many times. A game is meant to be fun and fair, war is neither.


HiTech

[DmonSlyr]

F4u1C will out turn the La7 all day.

The la7 does have speed and accel advantage.

If La7 starts with E advantage, it's a tough bird to fight for any airplane in the game.

The F4u1c, like predator said, has the ord, fuel, and better guns than the La7. However, I think the La7 is much more versatile at low alts, getting away from gangs of enemies, and can gain steam a lot more quickly than the F4u1c.

The F4u1c is a great plane to fight against cons that are lower than you. But in a furball Vs 190Ds, P51s, and La7s, you aren't going to have much fun against a good BnZer.

If only the F4U1c was a little bit quicker off the gun it would greatly help it, but it takes a lot of patients to fly a Chog, Slow climb, Slow Accel. VS a plane that takes 0 Patients like the La7 that can get to high alt quickly and excel very quickly. It is almost 2 different fighting styles. The F4U is a great BnZ plane and Great turner, But you cannot do them both well at the same time. Whereas the LA7 is more like a 109 where you can be both a BnZer and turner at the same time and for the most part, get away with it, and even be able to escape (extend away) from multiple planes, you cannot do that in a Chog without fighting your way out.

[PR3D4TOR]

I like that. Yes the La7 is like a low-alt 109. Not quite the same climb/accel, but makes up for it in top end speed.

[Karnak]

I had suggested before that eny calculation be partially tied to ww2 actual usage but the "Don't tell me what to fly." people had a field day with that one.

The problem is that is such an arbitrary factor.

Heavy limits on Ta152s, F4U-1Cs, Spitfire Mk IXs (only ~300 Merlin 61 versions like ours were built), C.205s and B.239s while essentially no limits on P-51Ds, Spitfire Mk XVIs and La-7s.

[TonyJoey]

Just my 2 cents, but give me the C-hog every time against an LA 1v1, if only because I will happily light you up with my 4 hizookas as you try to BnZ. From a pure flying perspective, the LA has the nod I think, with a few trade-offs, but throw in probably the most deadly gun package in the game, and the C-hog becomes a flying deathstar that can point its nose anywhere quickly and shred anything in its sights relatively easily.

[bozon]

Just my 2 cents, but give me the C-hog every time against an LA 1v1, if only because I will happily light you up with my 4 hizookas as you try to BnZ. From a pure flying perspective, the LA has the nod I think, with a few trade-offs, but throw in probably the most deadly gun package in the game, and the C-hog becomes a flying deathstar that can point its nose anywhere quickly and shred anything in its sights relatively easily.

Yes, the C-Hog is 4 hispanos with some kind of a plane holding them together

[save]

The C-hog is not even close to the Me-410 in guns with its 2*MK103 and 2*20mms, not only does it easy out range the
Hispanos, one hit and destruction of  any fighter  is ensured (each round inflicting 2x damage compared with a mk108 of the 109k).

Just my 2 cents, but give me the C-hog every time against an LA 1v1, if only because I will happily light you up with my 4 hizookas as you try to BnZ. From a pure flying perspective, the LA has the nod I think, with a few trade-offs, but throw in probably the most deadly gun package in the game, and the C-hog becomes a flying deathstar that can point its nose anywhere quickly and shred anything in its sights relatively easily.

[Saxman]

The C-hog is not even close to the Me-410 in guns with its 2*MK103 and 2*20mms, not only does it easy out range the
Hispanos, one hit and destruction of  any fighter  is ensured (each round inflicting 2x damage compared with a mk108 of the 109k).

Hitting power is only part of the equation. The Hispanos are nearly as point-and-click as the Browning .50cal, and have double the rate of fire of the 103. It's much easier to get rounds on target with the Hispanos.