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Offline Karnak

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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2015, 11:18:17 PM »
I still would like to see the 109T in game because it flew more combat missions than many planes currently in game.
Which planes?  I can only think of a couple of candidates, Ta152 and Me163....
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2015, 06:58:06 AM »
Well..........that's two for a start.

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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2015, 07:32:53 AM »
How many missions did the 109t fly and what planes in AH flew less?
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2015, 10:18:35 AM »
Well..........that's two for a start.
You said "many".  Two is not many.

I can't think of any others the Bf109T is likely to have flown more sorties than, certainly not by much of a margin.
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2015, 12:57:48 PM »
ar234?

It definatley flew more than the mossies and 38s   :x   combined
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2015, 07:08:23 PM »
The 109t shot down the first B17 in european theater.

There were 70 built and they flew from mid 1941 to 1944.

There is a book about them that details most every sortie but I'm not buying it just to refute you.

The fact is that the plane flew more sorties than more than two planes currently in our planeset.

This doesn't mean that it should be available from CV in game but neither should the current brewster......of which 44 were delivered.

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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2015, 07:21:31 PM »
The current Brewster flew from 41-44 and had almost 1000 aerial victories. The number of planes might be low but the impact in the war was significant.

But no, it is not a cv plane.
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2015, 09:31:11 PM »
The 109t shot down the first B17 in european theater.

There were 70 built and they flew from mid 1941 to 1944.


IIRC, the Bf 109T was withdrawn around 1941 and crews converted to the Bf 109E-3.
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2015, 12:35:48 AM »
B17......3272 (351st BG, 510st BS) shot down by Lt Erich Hondt in Bf 109T of Hasta Helgoland at Schmalfeld, Germany Jul 25, 1943 on raid on Hamburg, Germany.  MACR 92.  5 KIA, 5 POW

5895 (385th BG, 548th BS, 'Souse Family') shot down by Uffz Erich Ulmschneider in Bf 109T-2 of Jasta Helgoland over North Se 43 km NW of Helgoland, Germany Jul 26, 1943.  MACR 191B.
               5 KIA, 6 POW

B17.......7486 (392nd BG, 578th BS, "The Shark")  shot down by Uffz Walbeck in Bf 109T of Jasta Helgoland and and crashed into North Sea 117 km SW of Hanstholm, Norway Nov 18, 1943

B17.......29996 (92nd BG, 407th BS, "Flag Ship") shotdown by Uffz Ernst Breton in Bf 109T-2 of Jasta Helgoland and crashed at Mandal, Norway Nov 16, 1943.  MACR 1384.  9 POW, 1 evaded

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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2015, 06:48:19 AM »
+1 on the 109T!
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2015, 06:54:44 AM »
A denavalized 109T was pretty much a 109E. They could take off in a bit shorter distance but since the 109E rarley leave the hanger I dont see.

The 109T were put back into action in April 1943 and deployed to norway later that year. I cannot see it as an attempt to boost the numbers of fighters aviable by transfering 109T from training units to active duty. (in an remote area with low enemy activity)
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2015, 06:56:27 AM »
And 109T cannot land on cvs either, besides a few prototypes used for testing most of 70 109T did not have equipment for carrier landing.
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Re: Allow the Brewster to be able to up from a CV
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2015, 07:12:28 PM »
109t had 1.5 sq. meter more wing area due to the longer span, full wing length leading edge slats, longer ailerons.

Some sources credit the longer span helped high altitude operations.

The slow speed handling should be very different than any other 109 variant.