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Offline JVboob

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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2015, 02:02:42 AM »
The P-40's worst enemies are the uber turning planes.  Most other planes can escape from them at some point.  P-40s have glacial acceleration and a lower top end speed.  My heart sinks when I see a Zero or B-239 co-alt or above, because there is no way to turn with them and they will run me down too.  :furious

As for a better K/D, typically a lower number of pilots take up a P-40 (mostly P-40 fans, who have some experience in it), as opposed to the EZ-mode Brewstard, which can influence the stats to make it appear that the P-40 is superior.

Im not a P40 fan per say but i do think they are sexy birds and my squadron flew them in WWII so I find myself flying them more and this month 70% or more of my sorties have been in the E and N models Ive maintained a positive K/D with both as well. When I have alt people get scared of me every time when im coalt they still respect the warhawk but when im low everyone wants to pet me and it sucks lol

once you learn the 40 its a great plane
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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2015, 03:27:31 PM »
I wish more people would fight low. Getting tired of 20k Spits, Ponies, LAs and 190s dropping on me every time I take off. Making me consider quitting the game.

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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2015, 03:28:48 PM »
I wish more people would fight low. Getting tired of 20k Spits, Ponies, LAs and 190s dropping on me every time I take off. Making me consider quitting the game.

I just sit on the deck and watch them all auger diving in. They'll learn sooner or later.  :devil

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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2015, 03:37:50 PM »
I just sit on the deck and watch them all auger diving in. They'll learn sooner or later.  :devil

I like to fly at about 12-14k on the way to target to stay JUST ABOVE the defenses and survey the situation, then I'll jump in and start turning, usually in a P-51D staying behind Corsairs and Spitfires under 5k. I can't well do that when there's almost always somebody at 20k looking for me. I just had my Typhoon picked off by a 22k Spit 16 when I was at 10k even heading to the fight, not even halfway across the channel to 170. I find myself playing less and less because of that stupid stuff. I'm not a GV guy. I have a Saitek X55 and Pro Flight pedals for FLYING, so I'm not just gonna stay NOE or run tanks, especially when I don't nerf my graphics to make seeing tanks easier. I can't shoot through trees or hills, either, making GVing further unappealing since that's what I always end up running into.

Then there's the whole thing where the Bishops see a single plane dar bar pop up in my territory and have 3 or 4 super planes waiting for me before I even cross the border, making bombers unappealing.

The three-team fistfight at A70 the other night was extremely fun, but it was a good furball, not a pickfest with 20k super planes waiting for folks to come in.

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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2015, 03:42:17 PM »
You should definitely try flying at 500 ft. It's hilarious how many people dive in from 20K full throttled and rip their wings off.

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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2015, 07:17:20 PM »
You should definitely try flying at 500 ft. It's hilarious how many people dive in from 20K full throttled and rip their wings off.

I flew for the first time in a couple weeks last night.  It was interesting as even the birds you normally see turning and burning were up high and staying fast.  I don't ever recall seeing a Wildcat, much less a pair of them booming and zooming and then running like they were last night.  You can usually count on the N1K and Ki84 guys to mix it up, but again it was the same deal.

Was kinda sad really
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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2015, 07:55:28 PM »
Yeah that's how it is these days. I've been playing less and less myself because of it. Just the other day an F4U was so determined not to fight me that he smashed his plane into the runway so he could tower out quicker. I just don't get why people avoid combat in a combat game.

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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2015, 09:00:52 PM »
Yeah that's how it is these days. I've been playing less and less myself because of it. Just the other day an F4U was so determined not to fight me that he smashed his plane into the runway so he could tower out quicker. I just don't get why people avoid combat in a combat game.

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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2015, 09:37:57 PM »
I tried flying tonight and ended up burning 1200 lbs of fuel just watching one pass wonders like P51s and 190s all night.
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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2015, 04:46:34 AM »
I have to say i like the off hours more, its less planes around but its easier to find fights that are resonably even (except for the bish horde) and people are less scared of being low and slow.

But on the other hand i understand why people fly doras and ponys etc, even a noob like me can zoom around and pick off 3-4 cons, run home and land them and get the wtg:s on country.
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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2015, 04:08:57 PM »
I have to say i like the off hours more, its less planes around but its easier to find fights that are resonably even (except for the bish horde) and people are less scared of being low and slow.

But on the other hand i understand why people fly doras and ponys etc, even a noob like me can zoom around and pick off 3-4 cons, run home and land them and get the wtg:s on country.

Cherry Pickers create Cherry Pickers, so to speak.  Defeating a Cherry is not that difficult, if your willing to adjust your style.  Getting killed repeatedly by Cherries is largely the choice of the individual. 
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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2015, 05:04:49 PM »
Cherry Pickers create Cherry Pickers, so to speak.  Defeating a Cherry is not that difficult, if your willing to adjust your style.  Getting killed repeatedly by Cherries is largely the choice of the individual. 

Excatly. And now 90% of the time i can choose between joining the horde (and be a cherry picker) or fight the horde (and being picked on). neither one of them is fun imo.
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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2015, 06:48:45 PM »
Cherry Pickers create Cherry Pickers, so to speak.  Defeating a Cherry is not that difficult, if your willing to adjust your style.  Getting killed repeatedly by Cherries is largely the choice of the individual.

If your looking for any kind of fight you have to fight the horde. If you don't then all your going to get is races to be the first of 5 to get the lone runner.

Fighting the horde no puts you at a serious disadvantage. You spend most of your time defensive against any where from 3 to 8 guys with your wing man like wise engaged.

So yes in that your right, "Getting killed repeatedly by Cherries is largely the choice of the individual". Choose to get ganged over and over, or choose to chase runners. The choice sucks.

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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2015, 01:26:11 PM »
If your looking for any kind of fight you have to fight the horde. If you don't then all your going to get is races to be the first of 5 to get the lone runner.

Fighting the horde no puts you at a serious disadvantage. You spend most of your time defensive against any where from 3 to 8 guys with your wing man like wise engaged.

So yes in that your right, "Getting killed repeatedly by Cherries is largely the choice of the individual". Choose to get ganged over and over, or choose to chase runners. The choice sucks.

Agreed in substance but I think there are other choices.  I see the problem being that way too many people are looking for a yankybanky turnfight in a "strategic" arena, coupled with a strong desire for a high number of kills, with "death" being no more than a speedbump in the action.  In order to keep AH interesting (for me), I gave up this line of thought a long long time ago. Sure, I occasionally jump in the fray... but soon remember my hatred of (getting) gang-banged & cherry picked, but it's inevitable.  I decided a strategic approach might be fun, coupled with a SIMULATION attitude.  So most of the time that's what I do (in my own fashion), with landing my ride as one of my major goals.  Flexibility is key.  The more people start to realize the vast amount of "things" you can do in AH, the less people will whine about hordes, cherry pickers, gangbangers or whatever.  Some 16 years in (not counting AW), I don't see it happening any time soon, but HTC is on to it.  HiTech provides balance regarding opportunity, choosing not to partake is (again) up to the individual.
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Re: Turn and Burners
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2015, 04:27:13 PM »
Anything over 15k should cost perks. Rising commensurate with the perk rating of your ride. 5 perks per 5 k of alt.  :old:
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