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Offline bustr

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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2015, 06:49:09 PM »
Wiley,

You can go to school to learn how to be a "marketing troll" so that the people you talk to think you are harmlessly innocuous. Then they are willing to spill bits and pieces of info because you give them a warm and fuzzy feeling by being unassuming, earnest and safe. Just takes key words and phrases. No different than the questions created to sway opinion or elicit responses over the phone by a pollster.

For these kinds of games, this OP would fit the bill.
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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2015, 07:39:12 PM »
I don't get a definitive shill vibe off this guy.  Just very excited to be here and wants to help.

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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2015, 07:51:18 PM »


With AHIII coming out within the next few years, this is the perfect time to implement additional functionality. Skuzzy mentioned (in the MA) that AHIII was mainly an upgrade to a new graphics engine. Why not add in new planes, new abilities, new achievements, new anything that will give the users something to mix things up and, probably more importantly, could bring in more people.



The upcoming version of AH isn't just a graphical upgrade to the game, there are going to new arenas with new game play modes (Capture the Flag, etc.) that will come with the new version.
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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2015, 09:20:04 PM »
I don't get a definitive shill vibe off this guy.  Just very excited to be here and wants to help.

Wiley.

He probably isn't but, your personal reaction is what you are trained to achieve as one. Everyone feels sorry for him and continues to offer information to help him. And he continues to throw it out there innocently in the name of "NEW". Everyone likes new for the sake of new. You missed that he is not innocent nor uneducated to critical thinking early in these posts. He got caught being sloppy.

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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2015, 09:49:48 PM »
He probably isn't but, your personal reaction is what you are trained to achieve as one. Everyone feels sorry for him and continues to offer information to help him. And he continues to throw it out there innocently in the name of "NEW". Everyone likes new for the sake of new. You missed that he is not innocent nor uneducated to critical thinking early in these posts. He got caught being sloppy.

Oh I understand what you mean.  I could be wrong, but I think new guys deserve the benefit of the doubt.  His first few posts do not ooze critical thinking to me, but you might happen to be right.  Doesn't matter enough to me to think about it any more though.  Ideas in here stand or fall on their own merit.  Other than the idea itself, anything players post in here is essentially noise.

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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2015, 11:38:45 PM »
The game needs more players.  A new player posting about things that may be silly is far, far better than no new players.  You're being too jaded and not giving the benefit of the doubt.

The community needs to be more open and welcoming, not looking for reasons to drive people off.  Who cares if they ask for the nuke or never used aircraft?  HiTech has been successfully ignoring such stuff for as long as he's been in the business.  Let new players be silly.
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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2015, 11:56:04 PM »
The game needs more players.  A new player posting about things that may be silly is far, far better than no new players.  You're being too jaded and not giving the benefit of the doubt.

The community needs to be more open and welcoming, not looking for reasons to drive people off.  Who cares if they ask for the nuke or never used aircraft?  HiTech has been successfully ignoring such stuff for as long as he's been in the business.  Let new players be silly.

"This is why it's a bad idea" or "This is why it likely won't happen" should not be seen as driving people off.  Trying to get people to look at their idea from the aspect of "how would this be abused?" shouldn't either.

Discussion of a game change idea shouldn't be limited to how great it is and how soon they should implement it.

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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2015, 01:51:24 AM »
"This is why it's a bad idea" or "This is why it likely won't happen" should not be seen as driving people off.  Trying to get people to look at their idea from the aspect of "how would this be abused?" shouldn't either.

Discussion of a game change idea shouldn't be limited to how great it is and how soon they should implement it.

Wiley.

No, it isn't wrong to say an idea is a bad idea.  However the following bit you posted goes far beyond that and into the realm of disparagement, and disparagement of potential incoming newbies.
Yep.

It'll be wall to wall personalized skins, ability to trade perk points, we need some kind of visible way to show we have put in more time than other people, we need objectives, ingame visible stats, remove 12 hour rule, this game should be F2P, this game needs ingame tutorial, the B29 needs the nuke, where is the 4x20mm version of this plane wikipedia says existed, here is an obscure plane that never saw combat that I want, put it in tomorrow please, etc etc.

Can hardly wait.

Wiley.

This is the kind of thing that isn't needed and drives people off.  If people are basing requests on inaccurate information, well, we all started somewhere.  I can certainly look back at posts of mine from 15 years ago and see nonsense that I said.  I strongly encourage all of us long timers to be more welcoming and forgiving of silliness.  If we respond in good faith many of the newbies will be interested in learning more accurate information, but if we are derisive and scathing, well, they will just go away.
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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2015, 02:29:37 AM »
the thing about wishes  is that while wishes should be posted either for accuracy, correction or perhaps in the fun category.

It would be fun to have planes that can drop gv's.  while not totally accurate, think of the claw that was available for some people a few years ago.

I think this wish falls under the category of it would be fun if a c47 could drop gv's.  it might be abused as some might take a bunch of c47's to the strats and level it.  but it could be limited to within a sector to rush a base.  imagine c47's cannot bail or drop gv's unless within xxx miles of an enemy base and they call goes out to bunch of c47's at xxx base.

would be just like stopping an noe raid except the c47's wont shoot back.  while not realistic I see the fun of it.  it has a 100% chance of not being implemented unless hitech looks at it and says, you know what, I am up for a few laughs.  let's have a "fun day" where the knights and bishops can up any plane and fly to 60k in a couple of minutes so we are at the same altitude as the rooks.

in other words a day or 2 a month that could be just for laughs.  when I was in the 327th back in the aw days once we had a "tank day".  was a lot of fun till somebody brought in a c47 and "drove" it on the ground plunking at tanks, we started getting gunners and driving them around tanks and trying to see who would kill what.  then it was driving bombers against bombers.  sounds stupid but it was a lot of fun.


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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2015, 07:05:56 AM »
The game needs more players.  A new player posting about things that may be silly is far, far better than no new players.  You're being too jaded and not giving the benefit of the doubt.

The community needs to be more open and welcoming, not looking for reasons to drive people off.  Who cares if they ask for the nuke or never used aircraft?  HiTech has been successfully ignoring such stuff for as long as he's been in the business.  Let new players be silly.

Well said.

This 'community' truly tends to be its own worst enemy. Still remember 10-7 years ago when it was very very "trendy" here to call young people squeakers and how during the summer every conceivable game play problem was due to the kids' summer break from school and how they were the root of all evil. How the hell can a grown man with a straight face crucify kids for playing a game "only" during the summer months while at the same time happily admit that he obviously has more free time than a kid so that he can play all year around? And what makes it even more pathetic was that as the few "frequent posters" started it, the other lemmings followed suit.

There's still plenty of these guys around on this BBS who were doing it all the time few years back. You know who you are. What a bunch of morons.
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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2015, 10:10:37 AM »
This is the kind of thing that isn't needed and drives people off.  If people are basing requests on inaccurate information, well, we all started somewhere.  I can certainly look back at posts of mine from 15 years ago and see nonsense that I said.  I strongly encourage all of us long timers to be more welcoming and forgiving of silliness.  If we respond in good faith many of the newbies will be interested in learning more accurate information, but if we are derisive and scathing, well, they will just go away.

Other than the 'Can hardly wait' at the end of that, that's a statement of fact.  2 weeks after AH3 releases, that bingo card will be blacked out.

But I do take your point.  The last while, I have endeavoured to be more warm and fuzzy on the boards, I apparently still have a ways to go.

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Re: How about the ability to airdrop GVs?
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2015, 03:05:13 PM »
Why do people insist on more non combat oriented side stuff to do in a combat game?


the actual answer is, they're no good at combat..


or at least aren't as good as they think they are.

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