Need advice on build

[Skuzzy]

That has nothing to do with an article written to justify/rationalize a product purchase.  No matter what the topic is, those type of articles are idiotic.

Now, personally, right now I can buy two 4TB hard drives for the price of a 1TB SSD.  My computer boots in 9 seconds.  I cannot afford to use up a slot for such a small device as large scale storage is still my primary concern.  The marginal benefits versus the cost, just does not add up in my situation.

A lot of people depend on them to solve problems with their computer.  It is the classic, get a bigger hammer approach.

[GSakis]

That has nothing to do with an article written to justify/rationalize a product purchase.  No matter what the topic is, those type of articles are idiotic.

Now, personally, right now I can buy two 4TB hard drives for the price of a 1TB SSD.  My computer boots in 9 seconds.  I cannot afford to use up a slot for such a small device as large scale storage is still my primary concern.  The marginal benefits versus the cost, just does not add up in my situation.

A lot of people depend on them to solve problems with their computer.  It is the classic, get a bigger hammer approach.

Your computer 9 seconds, others 90 seconds. Give it up already.

[Skuzzy]

Your computer 9 seconds, others 90 seconds. Give it up already.

Give what up?

[GSakis]

Give what up?

Why talk about 9 second bootup times when they are not accessible to normal users without SSD?

[Skuzzy]

Why talk about 9 second bootup times when they are not accessible to normal users without SSD?

Because they are accessible.  Anyone with a reasonably good bit of knowledge of Windows and hardware can do it.  It's not magic.

[GSakis]

Because they are accessible.  Anyone with a reasonably good bit of knowledge of Windows and hardware can do it.  It's not magic.

I'm really excited to hear now. Please tell.

[Skuzzy]

As long as I am employee of Hitech Creations, Inc. I will not post how to do it.  The risk of a system no longer being able to boot, if a mistake is made, is too high for novices to attempt.

I figured it out.  No reason why someone else cannot figure it out.  Like I said, it is not magic.  It just takes some effort.

[mikev]

well skuzzy you beat me by 3 secs, with my old system mine took 12 with a standard HD hehehe.
 GSakis why are you arguing this point ? personally i prefer more hd space then speed . i come home hit the start button probably takes me 30 seconds to sit down with a refreshment before i am even ready to use the computer. more then enough time for any system to boot.
   if you didnt like and are mad cause he said the article is idiotic just say so . no need to sit here and stew about it.
 here is an article and you can call me an idiot, that may tell you some of the things skuzzy did. its not rocket science. http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/speed-up-windows-boot/

 and ya it tells about bla bla bla a ssd.

[GSakis]

As long as I am employee of Hitech Creations, Inc. I will not post how to do it.  The risk of a system no longer being able to boot, if a mistake is made, is too high for novices to attempt.

I figured it out.  No reason why someone else cannot figure it out.  Like I said, it is not magic.  It just takes some effort.

Ok then, please do not refer to this solution if it's too dangerous or complicated to try. Let's stick to real world ok?

So we're back to square one, SSDs bring the speed improvement.

[Skuzzy]

Ok then, please do not refer to this solution if it's too dangerous or complicated to try. Let's stick to real world ok?

So we're back to square one, SSDs bring the speed improvement.

Doing anything like that is a risk to a novice with little knowledge of Windows.  Adding an SSD to Windows is a risk for the novice as well.  I chose to limit HiTech Creations exposure.  It does not mean it is not something the well versed Windows user cannot do.  Just like installing an SSD is simple for the well versed hardware guy.

I never said SSD's do not help with performance, but one has to weigh the cost performance ratio and determine if it is an option worth having.  Even if I could get away with a smaller drive, the cost/performance ratio is still not worth it to me.  I spend most of my time in applications which are not constantly reading or writing from or to the drive.

This weekend, I spent 7 hours in one application where an SSD would be a waste of money.  Most Windows applications are not disk dependent and in those cases one has to decide if it is worth the seconds you might save loading the application (I say *might* because once Windows loads an application, it will simply keep it in memory until the memory is needed for something else making the next load of that same application virtually instantaneous).

[GSakis]

Doing anything like that is a risk to a novice with little knowledge of Windows.  Adding an SSD to Windows is a risk for the novice as well.  I chose to limit HiTech Creations exposure.  It does not mean it is not something the well versed Windows user cannot do.  Just like installing an SSD is simple for the well versed hardware guy.

I never said SSD's do not help with performance, but one has to weigh the cost performance ratio and determine if it is an option worth having.  Even if I could get away with a smaller drive, the cost/performance ratio is still not worth it to me.  I spend most of my time in applications which are not constantly reading or writing from or to the drive.

This weekend, I spent 7 hours in one application where an SSD would be a waste of money.  Most Windows applications are not disk dependent and in those cases one has to decide if it is worth the seconds you might save loading the application (I say *might* because once Windows loads an application, it will simply keep it in memory until the memory is needed for something else making the next load of that same application virtually instantaneous).

I really like fast boot times so I tried to look for youtube or howto instructions on how to achieve a super low boot time on windows with regular hd. I didn't find any, so what you have done seems to be something very special and not something anyone could find out.

How about an anonymous tutorial somewhere? Pls???

[Skuzzy]

No such thing as an anonymous anything on the Internet.  Aside from that, I have no other public access method available to me.

And again, it is not magic.  Look at what Microsoft did with Windows 8 to get it to boot quicker and it will give you a clue as to where to start with Windows 7.

[GSakis]

No such thing as an anonymous anything on the Internet.  Aside from that, I have no other public access method available to me.

And again, it is not magic.  Look at what Microsoft did with Windows 8 to get it to boot quicker and it will give you a clue as to where to start with Windows 7.

I'm thinking hybrid boot is not possible for Windows 7. And no point, can just hibernate.

[Navy84]

Got my system built!!! 75FPS with all the candy turned on and all settings maxed. I used TC's suggestion for the quad-core processor and R.A.M. but all other components are the same. Now I can get shot down in hi def!!!

[TequilaChaser]

Got my system built!!! 75FPS with all the candy turned on and all settings maxed. I used TC's suggestion for the quad-core processor and R.A.M. but all other components are the same. Now I can get shot down in hi def!!!

I'm happy for you Navy84!  next thing I can offer you is to go to www.blackviper.com and study/research his suggestions for tweaking Windows 7... this will help your PC be even better

if ya need any help just holler at me or pm me

have fun!

~S~

TC


EDIT: Damn, seems blackviper's website is down or something....... I'm going to try emailing him