Alpha is now open

[The Fugitive]

I am having a problem with the frame rate. Even with graphics turned down as far as possible Im only getting 8-16. In fact, I am getting almost the same as when graphics are turned up to max. I have a pretty decent computer and I run AH 2 at max graphics with a frame rate in the 50s.

You may have better luck getting answers if you post here....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/board,649.0.html

That is the "Open Alpha Test" thread on the boards. Posting a dxdiag with your comments will help also. Remember, the new Aces High is going to be much more dependent on your video card than the old one. A middle of the road card was ok before with a good CPU, but that won't cut it in the new version.

[CAP1]

i got a dumb question on this. if i download, is it gonna overwrite my current version? or is it a separate download?

[Tracerfi]

i got a dumb question on this. if i download, is it gonna overwrite my current version? or is it a separate download?

no its a different program

[CAP1]

no its a different program

 thanks man! download commencing....as long as my fantastic verizon router doesn't fart.....again, lolol

[CAP1]

i still run dsl here. it's showing an hour download time. is this even gonna be playable on dsl?

[CAP1]

edited.

 got it installed. haven't flown online, but just did a quickie against the drones. the new look is fantastic. in OFFline mode though, i got a max of 30fps, with it dropping to 17 anytime i got near anything. this isn't flyable at these rates. i can only imagine that if i go online, those rates'll drop lower. this is the very same machine that shows me at a constant 60-70fps in the current version. i dunno if i'm doing something wrong or not.......

[Lusche]

is this even gonna be playable on dsl?

absolutely.

[ImADot]

edited.

 got it installed. haven't flown online, but just did a quickie against the drones. the new look is fantastic. in OFFline mode though, i got a max of 30fps, with it dropping to 17 anytime i got near anything. this isn't flyable at these rates. i can only imagine that if i go online, those rates'll drop lower. this is the very same machine that shows me at a constant 60-70fps in the current version. i dunno if i'm doing something wrong or not.......

I hear the new version is very dependent on the graphics card, whereas the current version relies more on the CPU. Post your specs and some hardware guy will give some advice.

[CAP1]

I hear the new version is very dependent on the graphics card, whereas the current version relies more on the CPU. Post your specs and some hardware guy will give some advice.

 i'll get specifics up a bit later........but this is the machine td built for me back in 08 or 09. it's got a9800gtx video card.....i can't remember the exact memory in it.......

edit.....

 where do i find specifics  on memory, mb, etc? i seem to recall some place in properties?

 edit 2......

intel core2 duo? e8400 at 3ghz. 4gb ram. 32 bit. is any of that helpful?

[The Fugitive]

that video card is the basic card they have it working on. Turn down all the eye candy and it will be playable, unfortunately. You will most likely need to upgrade that card to fly with the goodies on. 

[CAP1]

that video card is the basic card they have it working on. Turn down all the eye candy and it will be playable, unfortunately. You will most likely need to upgrade that card to fly with the goodies on.

 guess it's gonna be time to upgrade then.....'cause what's the use of turning off all the cool groovy new stuff? 

 edit.....

 what do you mean? the 9800gtx is what they're using to test this?

also....does it matter where on the machine i put the game?\

[Easyscor]

guess it's gonna be time to upgrade then.....'cause what's the use of turning off all the cool groovy new stuff? 

 edit.....

 what do you mean? the 9800gtx is what they're using to test this?

also....does it matter where on the machine i put the game?\

If I'm not terribly mistaken, hitech is using a machine very similar to your current one for all his testing.

IMO, that's terrible as all the base capture guys will turn off all the eye candy so they can find the towns easily. All the GV guys will do the same so they can have an advantage finding the enemy. Never mind whether they need to because of weak hardware!

My hope is that htc will announce the advancement of the minimum and maximum ground clutter ranges on a fixed schedule of every 6 months to a year to keep the upgrade path predictable and keep everyone on an equal footing with state of the art graphics.

I hate that anyone can turn off clutter to gain an advantage but I understand the current necessity.

These beautiful graphics, or something similar could have happened 4 or 5 years ago but too many people would have been caught in the hardware upgrade bind. IMO The numbers in the Main Arenas are the result of not keeping up with the competition. I will maintain that the MA numbers exhibit the result in not making the changes earlier and I sincerely hope it's not too late!

IMHO, Hitech's work is beautiful and the game should be experienced with all the graphics set to the absolute maximum! You might be able to see what it CAN look like in off-line mode with your machine, but you'll never be able to appreciate all Hitech's work until you have better hardware!

Check the hardware forum if you're serious about obtaining or building a new machine.

Edit:
Unless you have an SSD hard drive (best), install the game on your fastest SATA hard drive if you have one.  The point is, install it on your fastest drive because in the past, it only loads the textures when it needs them and the faster the drive the less stutter and or possibility of a crash.

If any of my advice is wrong, I'm sure someone from htc will weigh in.

[100Coogn]

If I'm not terribly mistaken, hitech is using a machine very similar to your current one for all his testing.

IMO, that's terrible as all the base capture guys will turn off all the eye candy so they can find the towns easily. All the GV guys will do the same so they can have an advantage finding the enemy. Never mind whether they need to because of weak hardware!

My hope is that htc will announce the advancement of the minimum and maximum ground clutter ranges on a fixed schedule of every 6 months to a year to keep the upgrade path predictable and keep everyone on an equal footing with state of the art graphics.

I hate that anyone can turn off clutter to gain an advantage but I understand the current necessity.

These beautiful graphics, or something similar could have happened 4 or 5 years ago but too many people would have been caught in the hardware upgrade bind. IMO The numbers in the Main Arenas are the result of not keeping up with the competition. I will maintain that the MA numbers exhibit the result in not making the changes earlier and I sincerely hope it's not too late!

IMHO, Hitech's work is beautiful and the game should be experienced with all the graphics set to the absolute maximum! You might be able to see what it CAN look like in off-line mode with your machine, but you'll never be able to appreciate all Hitech's work until you have better hardware!

Check the hardware forum if you're serious about obtaining or building a new machine.

Edit:
Unless you have an SSD hard drive (best), install the game on your fastest SATA hard drive if you have one.  The point is, install it on your fastest drive because in the past, it only loads the textures when it needs them and the faster the drive the less stutter and or possibility of a crash.

If any of my advice is wrong, I'm sure someone from htc will weigh in.

I'm pretty sure that Skuzzy has said that the speed of the HDD does not matter.  An SSD will load the game faster than a standard HDD, but that's about it.

Coogan

[Easyscor]

I'm pretty sure that Skuzzy has said that the speed of the HDD does not matter.  An SSD will load the game faster than a standard HDD, but that's about it.

Coogan

I would never argue with Skuzzy, but think about it. Is the game really going to load all the aircraft skins and all the ground objects and all the clutter on every machine regardless of onboard physical memory? I don't think so.

[100Coogn]

I would never argue with Skuzzy, but think about it. Is the game really going to load all the aircraft skins and all the ground objects and all the clutter on every machine regardless of onboard physical memory? I don't think so.

I know that the game caches a lot of textures and things, but I don't know from how far away that it does. 
I've noticed a slight pause in the game when a new skin from other players have to be loaded.

Coogan