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Offline Viper61

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Attack at A71 - Looking for AXIS comments
« on: July 25, 2015, 03:56:14 PM »
Wanted to get a comment or two from the AXIS side on the attack to A71 during Frame 3.

The 325th came in as part of a larger strike package.  We were the 8 Hurri's that did battle with the 202's and then finally the 109's.

We did some radar flashing early and then the penetration to the target, came in NOE and dropped bombs with Hurris and then fought it out just east of the field.

Looking for comments on what you guys saw and how it effected your plan and actions.

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Re: Attack at A71 - Looking for AXIS comments
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2015, 06:04:17 AM »
I was there, so I can give some feedback on what I perceived to be happening.

68th were local Command. 

Timing indicated that there was not going to be a direct assault.  That would have been concluded inside 30 minutes.  As time rolled by it meant that there was going to be a high level assault, with a high possibility of a low level component as a distraction.

Flashing bases were pretty obviously meant to mislead.  Starting at the northern base was an mistake as it was on the direct line of assault and would have started 15 mins earlier if anything meaningful was coming through there.  This was confirmed when the flashing moved south and each base flashed just one at a time.  When there's more planes the bases flash for much longer in train.  This is what happened just before the low level attack commenced and the local CO sorted out the groups as to who was to be expected to do what.

At about this time the high level group north of the coast was sighted.   

CO called for the 202s to take on the low assault when it came, while the 68s and 9GIAP stayed high.
When the Hurricanes hit (we were expecting P40s) a small group of 109s were also sent to assist the 202s to get them down.

The B25s were engaged north of the field in about the position that it was estimated they would be going into the bombsight.
The sheer numbers of B-25s and the speed and toughness of the planes saw them brush the defenders aside.  The P40 escorts took a toll, as a number of fighters stayed in there blasting away determined to bring at least one down.

All in all, it was a very successful attack as there just wasn't enough firepower to severely disrupt it, yet alone stop it altogether.  The escort was strong enough and dedicated to the task.

The hi-lo was foreseen but required a response.  This still had the effect of weakening the local defence sufficiently for the high buffs to get through.

Worked pretty well. 

A follow up move to stop a second strike from rearmed B25s probably wasn't necessary but was enacted anyway.

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Re: Attack at A71 - Looking for AXIS comments
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2015, 11:49:27 AM »
This is always part of the great fun of FSO, trying to decipher an enemy attack, or trying to disrupt a defense.  Most of us CO's and XO's have been doing this for long enough now that it's getting harder to fool each other, so the plans get more and more elaborate.  This is what I love to see.  Nothing is better from a lead standpoint in either having an attack go exactly to plan or perfectly predict an attack and have all your defenses work perfectly.  These are great moments as they don't happen often, as the leadership overall in FSO is very smart and flexible. So you normally end up with something in the middle, with some predictions correct and some were wrong.

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Re: Attack at A71 - Looking for AXIS comments
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 08:06:02 AM »
Dantoo appreciate the comments.  And to Big Rats comments your correct it is getting much harder to fool the "other guy" LOL

Will have to think of something better for next time  :devil

Thanks again for the comments