Windows 10

[Skuzzy]

When Windows 7 was released it was very buggy.  It took a while to get it smoothed out.

It is the nature of the beast.  Every new release, from Microsoft, has a ton of bugs.  Give it six to twelve months and it will get pretty stable.

Windows 10 will never find its way onto any of my personal computers, until Microsoft defines what they mean by a "service" business.  At that point, I will decide.

[100Coogn]

So are we praising Win10 because with all of it's buggyness it's easy to fix for a minority of computer users or because it's new?

I thought Microsoft's whole point of this version was real ease of installation and use at last. This is sounding like all of the past MS new and improved promises of this OS is the OS of all OS because we have gotten it right this time. And all I'm reading in here and on the Internet is about problems and everyone's personal work arounds. So far, Win7 was less problematical.

No problems here... 

Coogan

[bustr]

I'm doing the download to setup a thumb drive as the install media. Might try a clean install on a spare drive to see what it is about, then swap drives back to Win7.

[Skuzzy]

No problems here... 

Coogan

That just means you have not run into the problems that exist, yet.  Microsoft is getting some panic updates together.  Expect updates within the next 48 hours.

[Patches1]

Skuzzy,

Windows 10 will never find its way onto any of my personal computers, until Microsoft defines what they mean by a "service" business.

I suspect it means, "Pay to Play", with no more free updates to the OS. I'm just guessing though.

[100Coogn]

I'm doing the download to setup a thumb drive as the install media. Might try a clean install on a spare drive to see what it is about, then swap drives back to Win7.

That's what I did.  Well I did the upgrade over top of Windows 7, so the OS would be activated.  Then after everything seemed to be working well I downloaded Windows 10
to a thumb drive and did my clean install from that.

Coogan

[100Coogn]

That just means you have not run into the problems that exist, yet.  Microsoft is getting some panic updates together.  Expect updates within the next 48 hours.

I mainly use my rig for gaming and video editing.  I haven't seen any issues 'yet' 
Hopefully the updates won't bugger things up...

Coogan

[Bizman]

I've got some calls so far about problems with W10. I've done two rollbacks and instructed a third one. The first one had a black screen, possibly caused by hibernation. Anyway, she wanted her 7 back. The second one flashed the desktop icons for about 15 minutes after every boot until it settled. The third had some networking issues, IIRC.

[Bruv119]

my 2 cents;

In amongst everything that has been going on at home I found a spare couple of hours and I too took the plunge.  I had everything backed up thanks to all the scaremongering talk around here.   

It upgraded everything fine with all files and folders, I do need to tweak my controller mappings in game but booted up the open Alpha to see if it had any negatives on performance and I didn't notice any differences in the short time I had to test.  Sound worked ok on my old creative SB card. 

[Snork]

I upgraded my two computers, a 6 yr old laptop and my desktop gamer, from 7 to 10. After some anomalies in the game like CTD which never happened before I reset the gamer to W7. I use the laptop for other purposes so don't mind using it as a guinea pig for 10. The reset was painless with just 15 updates to install after the switch back. The only drawback is the pop up for W10 download when I boot up. I can live with that,.

[LilMak]

I'm considering switching to W10. My desktop was shipped with W8 and it (w8) is a steaming pile of poo. I absolutely HATE it. Friday, just before FSO, something in the system got corrupted and my system hangs every minute or two. It appears to be trying to download a patch to W8 and keeps failing. I'm a computer idiot so everything I've tried has failed to this point. I was going to buy W7 and install it but 10 appears to be a step between (not as good as 7 but an improvement over 8) and the download is still free.

[TequilaChaser]

I have downloaded 3 copys/upgrades to Win 10 Pro, and have or am really considering instead of going the upgrade-then redo for a full complete install of windows 10 Pro to go the windows 10 Enterprise route....this way I will have control over the windows automatic updates, which one has no control over if they are using windows 10 Home or Windows 10 Pro, as I understand all the reading up on Windows 10 I have been doing.....

What are your thoughts on this regarding using Windows 10 Enterprise verses using Win 10 Pro, Skuzzy/ Chalenge/ Bizman / bustr?

I will be using a separate HD or SSD for the Win 10 install, no partitioning or dual/multi OS booting with Win 10 , I can use my BIOS boot manager ( F8 or F11 ) to manually boot in to Win 10.... is my thinking..... same way I am booting into Win 8.1 Pro now.. I decided to not use dual or multi boot with Win 8.1 Pro the same way...... after seeing how win 8.1 Pro added 2 extra folders to my other Hard Drives or partitioned HD's that was holding 2 or 3 different OS installations on them the first time I installed a copy on one of my 2 main computers....

TC

[Bizman]

I have no other experience than what I've read and seen at customer's who all have had the Home version.

Wikipedia has a nice chart about features in different versions. It looks like starting from Pro Windows Update for Business would be available, supposedly allowing to decide what to update and when. Then again, this article makes me wonder: http://www.zdnet.com/article/whatever-happened-to-microsofts-windows-update-for-business/.

Also, according to the chart, the Enterprise version supports volume licensing only. Do you qualify for that?

[TequilaChaser]

my last volume licensing I did was back in 2010, er was current up through 2010.....

I would have to check into it again and see if I am able to buy in volume....

the last time I bought in volume was 100 copies/keys for Win 7 Ult. 64bit ( only have 2 or 3 copies left )..... that was like 9 months after Windows 7 went live/public after the beta testing

was just/am currently reading an article over at Geek to, about Microsoft not being on top of the updates for business / enterprise currently (edit: seems your zdnet linked article is about the same as the one at Geek To )

seems to be a file cabinet's worth full of stuff I am finding to not like about this new Windows 10

thanks for your input

TC

[bustr]

After verifying I have to first do the in place upgrade to take advantage of the free upgrade against my license. Then roll back to Win7 after creating a full install USB drive for Win10. Then I can full Win10 install against my license later. I'm miffed.......

It also sounds like catching the flu for all the problems Microsoft has not accounted for. Some guys don't get sick each year, some only a little bit sick and some end up in ICU. And is there an end of the grace period in which I would have to put Win10 back on my PC for my Win7 license to still be valid?

TC, be careful that the only way your enterprise licensing will be valid is you have to buy Win10 full price or get stuck having to upgrade in place all 100, scrub and redo a full install. I remember one company I worked at, we had to have a licensing specialist assist us on where we really stood after the company underwriter wouldn't go forward with 1999 until we were square with Microsoft. Boy were we off even though we followed all of the directions from Microsoft. We had licenses laying around that ended up being worthless because of how we were not purchasing our server and client upgrades when we rapidly expanded from 125 personnel to 1200 and we suddenly had over 100 servers around the country. At least all of the licenses got thrown in a pile in the same drawer in stead of in the garbage.