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[mikev]

 my latest video tells of the frustration i am having. there are many more examples. enjoy....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_xi8Vqbo14

[The Fugitive]

With the speed you were carrying you should have gone nose high and done a hi yoyo. If he was coming around hard on you put more HI in the yoyo to make him burn more E coming up after you. Once you have the perch over him you can turn into him and chase him down.

You turned nose low at speed and so couldn't match his turn so he got a round enough to get his shot and he didn't miss.

Ride with a few guys as they are getting into fights. See what they see from their planes as they fight.

[mikev]

With the speed you were carrying you should have gone nose high and done a hi yoyo. If he was coming around hard on you put more HI in the yoyo to make him burn more E coming up after you. Once you have the perch over him you can turn into him and chase him down.

You turned nose low at speed and so couldn't match his turn so he got a round enough to get his shot and he didn't miss.

Ride with a few guys as they are getting into fights. See what they see from their planes as they fight.

thats just it i have watched videos from everybody from skyyr to vudu15  and everything in between.  the real issue here is me recognizing whats happening and reacting . sometimes i do the right thing at first then blow it and dont know why.sometimes i start off doing the wrong thing and recover and blow it anyways . sometimes i do everything right and get shot down anyways . the point is no matter what i do they still keep shooting me down. when i am in the TA i can fly smooth and float around  but in the MA when a plane comes it all escapes me and i turn into plane pieces falling from the sky. everything becomes unnatural and im stuck trying to think of what to do by then i got bullets and cannon going threw my canopy. this is not a you should do this or you should do that , its knowing what to do before it gets that far. i have redone the video a bit , was pretty frustrated when i did the first 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZWyMI18d0

[mikev]

after thinking about it there is 1 idea i would like to try. i will need volunteers to swap flying with me and i with you. we can pick any plane you are good at and have a vox.  my game time weekdays between 930 10 pm to 2 am weekdays  any time on weekends. it will be a talk ya threw it type instructional.  you can pm me if your interested in helping . i thank you if you do.

[The Fugitive]

I didn't mean to watch more films, I meant for you to do a .join command and ride along with someone else AS THEY FIGHT. This way you can see how they make real time decisions as they fight. Some may even be able to give you details on VOX as they do it. Personally I can get a LOT out of film, real films, not these youtube things. There is a lot of data speed is displayed, trails can give you angles, turn radius and such. When watching the film you can hold down the "look up" key and see where your lift vector is pointing, and I KNOW you have heard that term flying with Morph.

Agent360 posted some films a long time ago about fighting in the 109 and he narrated them as he filmed them. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,261486.msg4634727.html#msg4634727 the link still works.

As for fighting, there is a lot to think about. View, act, react, adjust and so on and each of these things there are a bunch of decisions to be made. While Im no super star I like to boil it down to a couple things.

1. If I have good speed I try to go UP and get above the enemy. All turns are nose up. Depending on the situation is HOW you maneuver UP.

2. If I don't have the speed, stay level and let them come to me. Level I gain speed/maintain speed, making nose low turns as they make a guns pass. What they do after dictates what I do. If they still zoom well I rinse and repeat. Eventually they either get frustrated and blow all their E turning with me or they just run out of E trying for their shots.

Those are my basics. They get me deeper into a fight and with SA last longer. Stop worrying about dieing! Until you learn more on the "HOWs" in fighting your going to die a LOT!! we all did it, its part of the learning process and dues that you pay. Everyone is fodder for the rest until they DO learn to fight.

[Puma44]

after thinking about it there is 1 idea i would like to try. i will need volunteers to swap flying with me and i with you. we can pick any plane you are good at and have a vox.  my game time weekdays between 930 10 pm to 2 am weekdays  any time on weekends. it will be a talk ya threw it type instructional.  you can pm me if your interested in helping . i thank you if you do.

Has anyone gone over the basics of BFM in the TA with you?  It appears that you are trying to learn basics in the midst of an MA fray.  Fugitive has offered some good pointers about some basic moves. It's a great idea to do ride alongs but, knowing the basics  will make it a more comprehensive learning experience.  If you can get the basics down in a controlled environment, you'll have a better skill set to build on in the MA.  Morf also has an excellent grasp of the skills you are seeking to learn and is a great purveyor of the force.  If someone is trying to "teach" you and doesn't start out with the basics, they are doing you a disservice.

[Muzzy]

The next time we're on fly with me. PM me in the arena.

[FLS]

my latest video tells of the frustration i am having. there are many more examples. enjoy....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_xi8Vqbo14

What are you learning from your videos and what are you doing differently next time?

[mikev]

What are you learning from your videos and what are you doing differently next time?

what i am learning is i am making mistakes , as to what am i going to do next try something different but  what i dont know is what that is. i climb up  i get shot down i turn early enough on a merge but i lose my advantage and get shot down . i have the alt advantage everything in my favor , i get shot down. its not getting shot down that has me frustrated its not knowing what to do before i get shot down. i know all the BFM and ACM  but what i dont know is how to use them.  sure i can do a rolling scissors when someone is on my 6 and even force an over shoot on occasion but what good is that if i still get shot down because i do not know what to do next. any time i have to stop and think is time i am losing to win the fight which is putting me at a disadvantage . we talk of learning curves in this game , well this is my brick wall at the moment.

[morfiend]

 Mike, drop by the TA one evening next week and I'll see if I cant help you some more.  Both Fugi and Puma make good points,I'd add it isnt easy for us old farts,we dont have the reflexes or eyesight,there is a reason you dont see old fighter pilots still fighting.

  However with practice and lots of it you can get to the point were you can hold your own! My suggestion would be to have fun and not worry about getting shot down but I know you only want to improve and that can frustrate the heck outta ya!

 hope to see you soon! and remember Rome wasnt built in a day!!!


   

[FLS]

what i am learning is i am making mistakes , as to what am i going to do next try something different but  what i dont know is what that is. i climb up  i get shot down i turn early enough on a merge but i lose my advantage and get shot down . i have the alt advantage everything in my favor , i get shot down. its not getting shot down that has me frustrated its not knowing what to do before i get shot down. i know all the BFM and ACM  but what i dont know is how to use them.  sure i can do a rolling scissors when someone is on my 6 and even force an over shoot on occasion but what good is that if i still get shot down because i do not know what to do next. any time i have to stop and think is time i am losing to win the fight which is putting me at a disadvantage . we talk of learning curves in this game , well this is my brick wall at the moment.

Step one would be to identify the mistake. That's often sufficient to suggest the solution. The best use of film is to analyze the fight and learn from it. Making videos is more of a bonus.

From your comment on ACM and BFM I'm not certain you're clear on some basics. I understand you know the basic maneuvers like a barrel roll but combat maneuvering in general requires an appreciation for how energy and performance dictate choices and timing. Try working on 1v1 fights to learn how to merge and also close formation aerobatic flying to work on precise aircraft control.

[Skyyr]

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[mikev]

Mike, drop by the TA one evening next week and I'll see if I cant help you some more.  Both Fugi and Puma make good points,I'd add it isnt easy for us old farts,we dont have the reflexes or eyesight,there is a reason you dont see old fighter pilots still fighting.

  However with practice and lots of it you can get to the point were you can hold your own! My suggestion would be to have fun and not worry about getting shot down but I know you only want to improve and that can frustrate the heck outta ya!

 hope to see you soon! and remember Rome wasnt built in a day!!!



   

  thanks morfiend you will again see me soon.  oh and by the way  heheheh we are only as old as we think. and yes i still have fun , i said this before, i will not quit trying , i know there is a fighter pilot in me somewhere we just got to find it.

[morfiend]

 I know there is too Mike!   I've seen improvement in your flying,you're much smoother than before and your plane control has improved.

   You need to understand the 2 types of energy and how to convert from 1 to the other.Kinetic and potential,potential is alt and kinetic is your speed,you can trade 1 for the other and this I think is the next step you need to understand.

 When we meet up I will try to explain this in more detail.


     

[mikev]

I know there is too Mike!   I've seen improvement in your flying,you're much smoother than before and your plane control has improved.

   You need to understand the 2 types of energy and how to convert from 1 to the other.Kinetic and potential,potential is alt and kinetic is your speed,you can trade 1 for the other and this I think is the next step you need to understand.

 When we meet up I will try to explain this in more detail.


     

  this video i attribute to your training Morfiend .in the past i would of been a sitting duck .the video starts with his 4th pass on me , now if i could shoot straight  his 5 th pass would of been his last lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56_KIC-FdCo&feature=youtube_gdata