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Offline Zoney

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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #210 on: October 01, 2015, 11:31:44 AM »
Have you been living in a cave since 1976?

The US investment investment companies "Investing" in China is why everything is made over there.
South East Asia and China are being used by US investment companies to make money.
Free trade?
Fair?
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If this is how the average colonial thinks we stuffed.


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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #211 on: October 01, 2015, 12:17:36 PM »
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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #212 on: October 01, 2015, 02:38:40 PM »
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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #213 on: October 01, 2015, 02:41:31 PM »
I'm president of a small (just under 150 people) high-tech company. We're finishing up a round of financing this month for $XX

Well done, Rolex! <S>

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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #214 on: October 01, 2015, 02:49:09 PM »
The old 520 project including building a large amount of freeway system that is not being rebuilt for the new 520.  The equivalent of what is being rebuilt today in the old project, as far as I could tell, was the $21M part. 

I would also say that 10 times more expensive is still egregious.

I was at 3 times the 1960’s cost.  Now that still comes out to perhaps a $1.3B difference in real terms.  Now that is a lot of money. 

So the question is, do changes in:

•   Capacity
•   Standards
&
•   Function

account for the price difference in real terms?


I listed a bunch of stuff that probably explains the difference.


If you still sense that there is bad actor somewhere in this project, I think that you might have a stronger argument to make if you focused on some problems that Kiewit has encountered.

Here is an angle for you to look at.

Kiewit built a number of structures that were questioned as substandard.  Kiewit denied any problems.  At first, inexplicably WSDOT supported Kiewit.   Later on, a report by a state level review team affirmed the problems and highlighted a number of other issues (not all Kiewit’s fault).  WSDOT came around and realized that Kiewit had indeed made mistakes, but also realized that they had mis-specced a number of important items. 

To me, it is a story of people and organizations making mistakes, initially naturally going into denial and then later coming to terms with the issues.

Someone could reasonably provide a more sinister interpretation.  If you went this route I think that you would have a stronger argument.  (There have also been a number of accidents and fines leveled that might interest you).


http://www.komonews.com/news/local/WSDOT-audit-reveals-failure-and-pattern-of-noncompliance-on-520-project-179856901.html?tab=video&c=y

http://media.komonews.com/documents/Audit+Report+draft2012-9-6.pdf

http://media.komonews.com/documents/Audit+Report+Supplemental+Information+2012-9-5.pdf

http://www.kirklandreporter.com/news/217672361.html#
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Offline Rolex

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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #215 on: October 01, 2015, 05:32:03 PM »
Cheers Brooke <S>

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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #216 on: October 02, 2015, 02:45:23 PM »
Cheers Brooke <S>


 Rolex,I'm still waiting on the IPO!!!!! :furious :furious :furious



   I invested in google,a no inventory company..... :rofl

 So far the ROR has been about 1500%....  Maybe I should have bought some new china with the profits...... :devil

  If I would have listened to my own advice I would have invested in Canadian banks during the great depression of 08,I would have made a small fortune..... Oh ya I did invest in the banks...... :devil


     :salute


 PS:  Most Canadian banks have made record profits in the last 10 or 15 years.

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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #217 on: October 02, 2015, 03:19:10 PM »
Yes, C# too. Hey, it was 6:30 in the morning for this old geezer when I wrote it.

That's okay.  Between C, C++, and C#, I'll take C any day.  There are pros and cons to all three languages.

It also depends on the development environment and what is being developed.
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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #218 on: October 02, 2015, 06:30:52 PM »
As a guy who has written in BASIC, Fortran, assembly, Pascal, Lisp, C, C++, Python, Perl, and Java, I have to put in a good word for Java.  I really like Java!  (But there are certainly tasks for which it isn't suited.)

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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #219 on: October 02, 2015, 07:59:09 PM »
As a guy who has written in BASIC, Fortran, assembly, Pascal, Lisp, C, C++, Python, Perl, and Java, I have to put in a good word for Java.  I really like Java!  (But there are certainly tasks for which it isn't suited.)

If you like Java, you'd like C#. 

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Re: Stock markets doom !
« Reply #220 on: October 03, 2015, 01:33:31 AM »
If you like Java, you'd like C#. 

Wab

Indeed. I think i would like it. In the early days i used microsofts j++ which i liked.