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Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« on: September 13, 2015, 11:22:17 PM »
I thought Id heard every angle on it but this one blew my hair back...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc1OPOeGvlQ
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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2015, 11:50:52 PM »
 :rofl

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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 12:17:52 AM »
Do I have to watch all 2.5 + hours?

Is there a Coles Notes?
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 12:30:40 AM »
only if you like history and hearing about an era that you never really hear talked about in a strategic manner... alliances and rivalries I as a ww2 fan never knew about from a speaker who is remarkably humorous and fascinating to hear speak on a subject that is absolutely fascinating if you like history and....


and...

if you like the possibility of alternate histories from an Aces High Scenario point of view it will give you some Country vs Country plane match ups you might never have expected.
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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 12:47:39 AM »
Might be easier, less painful and more informative just to saw my own head off.
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 06:48:33 AM »
we need an icon or emoji for "troll".  :noid

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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 08:40:30 AM »
Do I have to watch all 2.5 + hours?

Is there a Coles Notes?

I watched the first 10 min of this.

So he starts off making some sort of point that the Brits are really Venetians from some event 500 years ago.  (Something to do with being a treacherous people).

Says he is going to show that Churchill mastermind Pearl Harbor.

So FDR was some kind of figure head that went around kissing babies.

It was the members of the invisible government of the US, run by the Secretary of War, George Marshall and some other guy that really ran the country. 

These people were doing the bidding of a banker’s cabal put together by Edward VII of England before his death.

Oh, and one other item, Churchill masterminded Pearl Harbor not only to get the US into the War (Ed Note: I have heard this piece of the argument before) but also because he hated America because he hated his mother.

Perhaps even the 10 minutes I spent watching this was too much.

Lots of this -->>  :noid

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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2015, 04:08:14 PM »
Yeah, a comment on one of the fellow's other (interminable) vids indicated the guy is a Larouchie, would explain a lot.
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2015, 11:46:27 AM »
Might be easier, less painful and more informative just to saw my own head off.


Water just shot out my nose ........................ :rofl
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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2015, 05:43:36 PM »
The summary of it given from this Historians point of view was the balance of power in the empires of the time between WW1 and WW2, the state of intelligence on Japanese codes and which countries and officials had access to it.

Japan was allied with Great Britain and a large portion of German holdings in the Pacific were doled out to Japan post ww1.

Before the Axis alliance that was created during ww2 Great Britain and Japan were allies.

it goes into detail on all the happenings leading up to dec7th in impressive detail.

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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2015, 05:51:58 PM »
skip ahead to 17 minutes to where it gets really interesting....

here it is starting at 17 minutes...

https://youtu.be/Qc1OPOeGvlQ?t=1013
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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2015, 07:26:31 PM »
This guy believes Hitler survived WWII and that there are Nazi bases in Antarctica that we guard. He also uses the phrase "neo-con" which is a pretty good indication that he is a moonbat.

Not worth the time to watch.
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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2015, 09:52:39 PM »
This guy believes Hitler survived WWII and that there are Nazi bases in Antarctica that we guard. He also uses the phrase "neo-con" which is a pretty good indication that he is a moonbat.

Not worth the time to watch.
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Re: Fascinating History Lesson on Pearl Harbor?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2015, 05:31:28 PM »
I was not interested in the speaker as you were but the information on well documented US/UK relations that is not often talked about in the 1920's and 1930s was fascinating. It was a sort of miniature cold war played out with battleships instead of nukes.
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