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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2015, 11:27:54 PM »
Ummm...

I'm am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, AKA Mormon, and (maybe because I'm a long way from Utah) this is the first I've heard of this...

Yes we are taught to have a 72 hour kit, and a years worth food storage (or as much as is feasible).. no it's not because we think the apocalypse is nigh.  It's because it's always smart to be prepared, not only for natural disasters but other stuff as well.  I know families who have dipped into their food storage to make it through financial hard times due to lay offs and unemployment, or unexpected medical bills, or the unexpected death of a breadwinner etc...  Laying a little aside for hard times which may come is just good sense.  Also this teaching is nothing new, it's been taught in the church for many decades (at least as far back as the 60s)

The personal ideas and attitude of whoever started this theory does not in any way reflect the ideas or attitude of myself or anybody I know in the church.  Also it's fair to point out that the Tribune has always had an anti-Mormon bent.  As a matter of fact, that is exactly how said newspaper started back in the 1800s (printing anti-Mormon pieces in response to the Deseret News which is owned by the church)  But even the anti-Mormon Tribune is fair enough to point out.

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officials with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sent a memo to administrators and teachers in the Church Educational System, saying, "Although Sister Rowe is an active member of the [LDS Church], her book is not endorsed by the church and should not be recommended to students or used as a resource in teaching them. The experiences ... do not necessarily reflect church doctrine, or they may distort doctrine."

The late Mormon apostle Boyd K. Packer said in the October 2011 LDS General Conference that the "end" was not near and urged young Latter-day Saints to plan to live long, productive lives.

Official church doctrine regarding the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ is found in Doctrine and Covenants 49:7 "but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes."  So any Mormon who claims they "KNOW" or they've figured out... blah... blah... blah...  Well, they are just plain wrong.  In reality it's not something we talk about, or dwell on very much at all, if you're living a good life then it's not something you need to worry about, and that's true no matter what religion, or lack thereof, an individual believes.

 

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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2015, 11:33:02 PM »
So does this mean all mormon women will now be super easy since they assume the world is going to end?


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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2015, 05:22:44 PM »
OK, I do see an uptick in sales lately for Honda Generators :)

I also just got off the phone with a guy asking about the big Honda EU7000i to run his entire home.  Seemed pleasant enough, intelligent enough to ask the right questions and then I hear,,,,"Is there anything they have to protect the generator from an electromagnetic pulse?".....slight pause .....(me)"you mean from a Thermonuclear explosion ?"......another slight pause......(Him, small voice)....yeah.......(me)"No they do not sir, and I don't think it would matter because if we survived it, all the equipment you want to run, like your air conditioner, your refrigerator, your computer and TV, will be rendered inoperable by that same pulse".........(him) ok, good point and you are the only person that has actually been able to answer that for me, I'll be right down to buy it....................

Seriously, I've got to order another 2 dozen generators tomorrow, they are really selling well.
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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2015, 05:28:37 PM »
"No they do not sir, and I don't think it would matter because if we survived it, all the equipment you want to run, like your air conditioner, your refrigerator, your computer and TV, will be rendered inoperable by that same pulse".........

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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2015, 06:11:47 PM »
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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2015, 02:59:45 PM »
Yes we are taught to have a 72 hour kit, and a years worth food storage (or as much as is feasible).. no it's not because we think the apocalypse is nigh.  It's because it's always smart to be prepared, not only for natural disasters but other stuff as well.  I know families who have dipped into their food storage to make it through financial hard times due to lay offs and unemployment, or unexpected medical bills, or the unexpected death of a breadwinner etc...  Laying a little aside for hard times which may come is just good sense.

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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2015, 03:35:20 PM »
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Yeah.  That part makes sense.  I've been meaning get make a go-bag and store a man-month of MREs. 
I don't see much down-side to that even if it is never needed.

Now the whole planet Kolob thing... :O
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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2015, 04:10:48 PM »
oh cmon ol chap whats the fun it that?  as for those mormen women, oh yeah!  im your huckleberry! everybody needs a good breeder or two!

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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2015, 04:55:35 PM »
OK, I do see an uptick in sales lately for Honda Generators :)

I also just got off the phone with a guy asking about the big Honda EU7000i to run his entire home.  Seemed pleasant enough, intelligent enough to ask the right questions and then I hear,,,,"Is there anything they have to protect the generator from an electromagnetic pulse?".....slight pause .....(me)"you mean from a Thermonuclear explosion ?"......another slight pause......(Him, small voice)....yeah.......(me)"No they do not sir, and I don't think it would matter because if we survived it, all the equipment you want to run, like your air conditioner, your refrigerator, your computer and TV, will be rendered inoperable by that same pulse".........(him) ok, good point and you are the only person that has actually been able to answer that for me, I'll be right down to buy it....................

Seriously, I've got to order another 2 dozen generators tomorrow, they are really selling well.




Offer a promotion. Buy a new generator and you will throw in a DIY tilfoil hat kit (a roll of aluminum foil)
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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2015, 05:07:24 PM »
Yeah.  That part makes sense.  I've been meaning get make a go-bag and store a man-month of MREs. 
I don't see much down-side to that even if it is never needed.

Now the whole planet Kolob thing... :O

Well the "whole planet Kolob thing"  is not  really a "thing" at all in the church.  It is rarely ever mentioned or discussed because it is not related to any important doctrine or principles.  It is only mentioned in a single chapter of scripture as a place which is "nearest the throne of God" and where time is in the reckoning of the Lord's time, where a day to Him is a thousand years to us.  Whether you take that metaphorically or literally is a personal decision.

Kolob is also mentioned in one of my favorite hymns, which when sung in church is about the only time Kolob is mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y8Z_7jcwTU

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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2015, 06:09:46 PM »
By the way, for folks interested in protecting things from EMP, a cheap and easy way is just to put stuff in a metal trash can with lid (for example, all galvanized steel with steel lid on).  You can get a small 6 gallon one like this, which is easy to store:



Or you can get a normal 30 gallon one if you have that much stuff to put in there.

If you get a small one, you can put in a solar charger for AA and AAA batteries, an AM/FM radio, some rechargeable batteries, a couple of flashlights, a hard disk backup, etc. and have much room left over.

For a container to work against EMP it has to be conductive and have electrical contact all the way around.  For example, a painted metal box with a lid that doesn't have electrical contact all the way around the lid (because paint is an insulator) would not be a good solution.


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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2015, 06:19:26 PM »
In addition to some breeders were going to need a scientist or two.  Hey Brooke wanna come over for coffee?

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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2015, 06:24:41 PM »
In addition to some breeders were going to need a scientist or two.  Hey Brooke wanna come over for coffee?
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Re: Beans, Rice, Winchester, Temple Garment
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2015, 07:20:28 PM »
By the way, for folks interested in protecting things from EMP, a cheap and easy way is just to put stuff in a metal trash can with lid (for example, all galvanized steel with steel lid on).  You can get a small 6 gallon one like this, which is easy to store:

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Or you can get a normal 30 gallon one if you have that much stuff to put in there.

If you get a small one, you can put in a solar charger for AA and AAA batteries, an AM/FM radio, some rechargeable batteries, a couple of flashlights, a hard disk backup, etc. and have much room left over.

For a container to work against EMP it has to be conductive and have electrical contact all the way around.  For example, a painted metal box with a lid that doesn't have electrical contact all the way around the lid (because paint is an insulator) would not be a good solution.
Any solar or nuclear EMP could cause the nuclear power stations reactor  meltdown; danger doesn't come from above only.I doubt they have all shielded and properly auxiliary power back up to keep it cool;