German industry

[Scherf]

Back on the topic of VW diesels.  How come VW diesels are safe in Europe, but not in the USA?

Because European drivers.


 

[jeep00]

I wan in!  Regulate wood burning stoves and maintain a flawed forest management plan.  One of your nasty fires puts out made than all Alaska humans surviving.  Makes me want to spit. Lol you sillys need a head check.  Put your neighbor out of work america! Make him move! Its all you can do in your brain washed state of mind. With your high speed internet access and 50 minute commutes!  Sad state were in where a grown man thing fine to walk on another Mans shrubbery. 

[zack1234]

Yes GHI, the U.S. government is the worst government the world has ever seen in the entire history of time and should immediately be disbanded along with all the agencies it created because you can always trust the individuals to do the right thing.  Or we can trust all of the other countries in the world's governments because, well because they are just trustworthy.

Only the U.S. government has an unholy agenda.  Everyone else is the good guys and the U.S. citizens are all stupid and want to be slaves.  That's why we live here and seldom immigrate to other countries.  All those people that want to immigrate to the U.S. are stupid and want to be slaves too.

Also, HiTech is paid by the U.S. government to create and run Aces High to keep us as docile as cattle, merrily playing computer games while the world goes to hell, in case you didn't know.

And...........you can visit the sun as long as you go there at night.

At last a colonial who has finally admitted everything is America's fault.

[FLOOB]

And there's nothing you can do about it.

[Perrine]

"German Engineering" and "Clean Diesel" are now officially a meme.


youtube.com/watch?v=dKef1JFpiCA

[Perrine]

How come VW diesels are safe in Europe, but not in the USA?

Nope. VW admitted to doing this emissions cheat worldwide. The recall encompasses some 11 million cars worldwide.


At this point, diesel powered passenger cars reputation is shot once again in America.
VW should just ditch diesels altogether and just play catchup to Japanese & US in hybrid and electrification.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Catch up?

1. My company's hybrids and electrics are world class. http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/Hybrid-Cars/
2. AN earlier poster posted some erroneous info, perpetuating the myth that you somehow US buyers are shut out from buying higher mileage versions of the same cars. This is only partially true, and is driven as much by our market experience and testing and measure diffs as by anything else. http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1091877_why-european-gas-mileage-ratings-are-so-high--and-often-wrong


No, sorry, we're not hiding a 200 mpg carburetor on you. In all my time in Research and Advanced, I could never find it. Take the tinfoil off your head.

Otherwise, that poster makes a valid point: many news stories are not covered well or at all by trad US Press. Try the British Press. Drudge carries all of them and functions as a fine clearinghouse for the various global news agencies.

[MiloMorai]

PJ_Godzilla works for Government Motors.

[PJ_Godzilla]

PJ_Godzilla works for Government Motors.

Uh, no... ( ) I'm a FoMoCo MoFo. I'm a Global Subject Matter Expert in Design Efficiency and Global Product Development/Cost Process. Before that, I was a Research and Advanced guy doing off-board test software for our Fuel Cell Vehicle, before that a Vehicle Dynamicist. Those days were fun. Jackie Stewart nearly made me crap 'em doing some Transit testing one day.

One of my former mentors was Ulrich Eichhorn. He's at V-dub now (update: Ulrich bailed from V-Dub in '012 and is now part of VDA, the German Industry Board - guess he got out while the getting was good). I wonder what he's doing over there? Probably getting ready to take a bite on a big crap sandwich...

In any case, I always love it when outsiders start talking about things of which we in the industry are unaware. Don't think, btw, that we here are unaware of anything currently out there on the market - don't even assume we don't have a pretty good idea of what they (the competition) are working on.

See BMW TurboSteamer for a technology near and dear to my heart. I did a lot of research and cycle-mapping on that one. It's not a patentable architecture, mainly because the FE improvement potential of it has been demonstrated since about 1978 (Thermo Electron). F1 uses it currently - calls it KERS.

[Oldman731]

No, sorry, we're not hiding a 200 mpg carburetor on you.

Yes, you are.  Stop stonewalling.

- oldman (You got it from the aliens.  Secret's been out for awhile.)

[PJ_Godzilla]

Yes, you are.  Stop stonewalling.

- oldman (You got it from the aliens.  Secret's been out for awhile.)

It appears that Oldman might have a passing acquaintance with sarcasm.   

[jeep00]

Uh, no... ( ) I'm a FoMoCo MoFo. I'm a Global Subject Matter Expert in Design Efficiency and Global Product Development/Cost Process. Before that, I was a Research and Advanced guy doing off-board test software for our Fuel Cell Vehicle, before that a Vehicle Dynamicist. Those days were fun. Jackie Stewart nearly made me crap 'em doing some Transit testing one day.

One of my former mentors was Ulrich Eichhorn. He's at V-dub now (update: Ulrich bailed from V-Dub in '012 and is now part of VDA, the German Industry Board - guess he got out while the getting was good). I wonder what he's doing over there? Probably getting ready to take a bite on a big crap sandwich...

In any case, I always love it when outsiders start talking about things of which we in the industry are unaware. Don't think, btw, that we here are unaware of anything currently out there on the market - don't even assume we don't have a pretty good idea of what they (the competition) are working on.

See BMW TurboSteamer for a technology near and dear to my heart. I did a lot of research and cycle-mapping on that one. It's not a patentable architecture, mainly because the FE improvement potential of it has been demonstrated since about 1978 (Thermo Electron). F1 uses it currently - calls it KERS.

They moved on from kers, and are using ers now. Leaps and bounds better. But I will hand it to FoMoCo, they are ahead of the big three by far in overall styling of their cars (trucks don't count, they're trucks) as well as having a couple fingers on the pulse, i.e. Focus ST. Strangely, the Mazda versions, such as the mx6, are better looking than their near exact counterparts, in this case the Fusion. A good looking car, to be sure, but the 6 is....more sleek? Something...
Be that as it may, but VW will almost surely pay more for this than GM did for their part in over 100 deaths. 900m for GM vs possible 18b for VW

[PJ_Godzilla]

Thanks for the good words, jeep. I have grown to love that company over the decades -and a big part of why we're making better stuff, imj, is that lunatic car guys have wrested control from the beanies. It's about cool product and bang for the buck (cost still matters, but only if the content is solid). I feel good about every day at work no matter where I'm at in the global empire. Blue Oval uber alles!

Alas, you are probably right about the relative penalties, but GM had some bedfellows, let's call it... I suspect the Deutschers will nerf the internal penalties themselves, but it remains to be seen.

[WaffenVW]

Laughed my balls off.

[Mitchell]

I wonder how much the price of a VW will drop after this?

The old 2000 Buick century is going to hell, might be time to go car shopping