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Offline Swoop

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Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« on: September 25, 2015, 04:41:38 AM »
Long story short:  Mate of mine is a real, actual, bonafide Druid and has been working on a theory about ancient navigational techniques for years now.  There's a big experiment when the lunar eclipse is on and he's looking for people all over the world to....well basically, look up when the moon turns red and mark what they see on a star chart using very, very low tech techniques like ancient man may have.

Details here:  http://www.stonehenge-druids.org/science.html


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Re: Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2015, 05:43:20 AM »
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Re: Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2015, 08:32:56 AM »
I do know the Phoenicians were the first that could successfully navigate the oceans of the world at night.

Swoop did he investigate that?  There seems to be proof that they were very successful.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2015, 09:32:15 AM »
Well......actually, he's been to Tiwanaku and discovered their pyramid points directly at both Stonehenge and the Great Pyramid in Egypt.....and found 5,000 year old carvings there showing clearly European, African and Chinese figures on the temple wall.  So he's pretty convinced already that ancient man.....got around.  Conventional archaeology states this is all just coincidence as ancient men simply didn't have the tools to calculate things like this, he's trying to prove it damn well isn't and yes they did.

What he's expecting to find from this is that if enough people respond with a dot on the star chart then if he compiles all the dots together it should vaguely resemble a map of the earth.  The hard part of producing a map in this fashion is ensuring all the dots put on the map are done at the same time, the only way to do this without a clock is to use some celestial event like a lunar eclipse.....hence why sites like Stonehenge were built to calculate moon cycles down to an accuracy of 20 minutes.  Conventional archaeology dictates that every single site like these were built by charlatans who wanted to be able to fake a magic trick once a year and calls astrological archaeology a 'fringe science'.




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Re: Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2015, 10:23:28 AM »
Swoop, intriguing experiment.  I'll be on the coast of Florida Sunday and will try and give this a go, if it doesn't rain!  I just simulated this with and an astronomical program on my Linux box, basically dialed up the Florida coast, set the time to the eclipse, and looked straight up.   Looks like I'll be looking at one of the legs of Pegasus. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2015, 08:03:39 PM »
Swoop..some surmise that obelisks were used to transfer power in the ancient world, drawings of light bulbs on pyramid walls, iron ore and copper that was mined  in the UP of Michigan  thousands of years ago.  Some even suggest to make armour in Europe and elsewhere  there just wasn't enough raw ores in those areas to produce the armour they did.
Where did they get it?  Some suggest the ores that have been mined thousands of years ago in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan were used in Europe and along the Mediterranean.
The only way those Ores could have gotten to those parts of the world were by ship.  It certainly leaves me pause to think and consider many relatively new theories.
Overloads the mind and makes us all question what we have been told and taught for hundreds of years.

Machu Pichu, all these questions we don't have answers to.   Imho the greatest tragedy of mankind was the burning of the great Library in Alexandria.  Answers may have been there.

Mankind at this point still has more questions unanswered then answered.  We are not as smart as we think we are apparently.
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Re: Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2015, 05:41:24 PM »
I heard the ancient Polynesians used to navigate by using the ocean currents temperatures, the vessels pilot would dip his testicles in the water to gauge the waters temperature in order to know which way to sail.

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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2015, 09:44:53 PM »
 The Polynesians could tell by the ocean swells if there was island in that direction. I remember seeing a "diagram" made of reeds that is thought to be a star chart.
  Temperature thingie, maybe so..."Get the old one up, we need to dip his boys.." hummm
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Re: Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2015, 11:47:49 AM »
Nothing like the human imagination for increasing knowledge, creating entertainment, and colossal blunders.

I imagine that in ancient times, when mysteries of climate and weather meant life or death, it would be very comforting to find predictable patterns in nature.

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Re: Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 08:45:14 AM »
If the moon is made out of cheese why has it not been eaten by mice?

They have a Stone Henge on Malta.

Apparently they have found out Stone Henge is bigger than they thought.

I know a bloke who is a druid, never worked a day in his life, he has not starved to death?

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Re: Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2015, 09:11:07 AM »
The Polynesians could tell by the ocean swells if there was island in that direction. I remember seeing a "diagram" made of reeds that is thought to be a star chart.
  Temperature thingie, maybe so..."Get the old one up, we need to dip his boys.." hummm
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I watched a show on the history of Hawaii and they proposed that following bird migration led them to the many islands of the pacific.  I wonder how many lived and died on the voyages.

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Re: Ancient navigational experiment - HELP NEEDED
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2015, 04:48:15 PM »
Sadly the Moon never came out from behind the clouds enough to try the experiment where I was at.  Only was able to see a sliver as the eclipse started but the clouds soon came and covered everything up.
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 07:17:04 AM »
Well he had a fair few responses, including one from RMS Britannia out near the Azores.  Apparently it all plots out on a map with an accuracy of just a few hundred metres.  Ya never know, you may see a news item some time in the next 6 months saying ancient man got around and here's the proof.