p-39 needs more ords option!

[bangsbox]

bomb racks along side gondies on a p39Q of the 82nd fg (pic said it was taken in 1944)


rockets


never seen this nose gun lay out before

[ONTOS]

I like it, I like it alot. +1

[Zacherof]

I dig having more bombs. Love the p40 with 3 bombs. The 39 would be just as fun

[darkzking]

YES!! YES!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EagleDNY]

Tail numbers on the bottom P39 (4 nose guns & cannon) shows it is a D model.  That is probably the 4 x .303s and a 20mm.

[bustr]

The rocket mounted was a limited run of L models with mounting points for that rocket type, about 250. The wing bomb racks from what I could research are field mods. Notice the drop tank, I think the white rear end on his wingman was used in the Pacific. The 4 hood guns are the first run of 20 P-39C which were converted to D models with the 30 cals removed from the nose and mounted in the wings.

P-39C  Model 13 Production model with one 1,150 hp Allison V-1710-35 engine, with one 37 mm cannon firing through the propeller hub, and two .030 Mg and two 0.50 Mg mounted in the nose. 

  As the first 80 production models of the P-39C started arriving at USAAC squadrons in January 1941, the first 20 were configured with two  0.50 caliber and two additional 0.30 caliber machine guns in the nose. The remaining 60 were provisioned with two extra 0.30 caliber machine guns, self-sealing tanks, and a provision for a 500 lb. pound bomb or 75 gallon drop tank carried beneath the fuselage. All four 0.30 caliber machine guns were placed in the wings and this was designated as the P-39D.

Two ordinance options, one a field mod, that will make the P39 need it's own fighter cover. And a short term variant that existed for a run of 20 aircraft almost a year before AAF P39's fired any angry shots at anyone.

[PJ_Godzilla]

+1: More is more.

I'd like to see what the weight impact is of the field mod 20 mil nose cannon variant.

[oboe]

+1: More is more.

I'd like to see what the weight impact is of the field mod 20 mil nose cannon variant.

The 20mm nose cannon variant was not a field mod.  It was an export version of the P-39, known as the P-400.   

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_P-400_AiracobraI.html

You can get this aircraft in game by selecting the P-39D and choosing the 20mm cannon instead of the 37mm.   I *think* the flight computer shows weights, so you should be able to see the difference there.

I always preferred the 20mm option over the 37mm because of the much-increased rate-of-fire. 

<S>

[Saxman]

The 20mm nose cannon variant was not a field mod.  It was an export version of the P-39, known as the P-400.   

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_P-400_AiracobraI.html

You can get this aircraft in game by selecting the P-39D and choosing the 20mm cannon instead of the 37mm.   I *think* the flight computer shows weights, so you should be able to see the difference there.

I always preferred the 20mm option over the 37mm because of the much-increased rate-of-fire. 

<S>

So did the pilots, although that had more to do with the 20mm's better ballistics and reliability. The Oldsmobile 37mm usually jammed after only a couple shots.

[bustr]

Unless Hitech has changed the inclusion reqs, ask for the P-39L with wing mounted bazooka tubes. I could find no info if they ever saw combat since that was a very tiny run of L models, and the real modification was the hard points and plumbing if those rockets were available. 

Only 20 P-39C made it off the factory floor with 4 guns in the nose to be field altered to P-39Ds by moving the 30cals into the wings. When the 20 P-39C were modified to P-39D, it was peace time. The unit to allow wing mounting of bombs could be mounted to just about any plane as long as the main spar could hold the additional weight of the bombs or fuel tanks. You then run up against Hitech's time table on field mod munitions and if he is till interested in introducing that to the game.

Bomb shackle units steal 5-6mph from a plane already dying for speed. And those tubes under the wings, ring the dinner bell.

[bangsbox]

Unless Hitech has changed the inclusion reqs, ask for the P-39L with wing mounted bazooka tubes. I could find no info if they ever saw combat since that was a very tiny run of L models, and the real modification was the hard points and plumbing if those rockets were available. 

Only 20 P-39C made it off the factory floor with 4 guns in the nose to be field altered to P-39Ds by moving the 30cals into the wings. When the 20 P-39C were modified to P-39D, it was peace time. The unit to allow wing mounting of bombs could be mounted to just about any plane as long as the main spar could hold the additional weight of the bombs or fuel tanks. You then run up against Hitech's time table on field mod munitions and if he is till interested in introducing that to the game.

Bomb shackle units steal 5-6mph from a plane already dying for speed. And those tubes under the wings, ring the dinner bell.

well since the p39D is already the fastest and deadliest plane in the game...perhaps we should nerf her with wing bomb racks

[PJ_Godzilla]

The 20mm nose cannon variant was not a field mod.  It was an export version of the P-39, known as the P-400.   

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_P-400_AiracobraI.html

You can get this aircraft in game by selecting the P-39D and choosing the 20mm cannon instead of the 37mm.   I *think* the flight computer shows weights, so you should be able to see the difference there.

I always preferred the 20mm option over the 37mm because of the much-increased rate-of-fire. 

<S>

Yes, thanks, I missed that, but it looks like P-400 = P-39D-1... I see no variants, unfortunately, that have both the 20 mil and the 1325 hp Alison. Meaning, I'd have to grow a big pair and fly the D Model... when I'm getting shot down already in much better tin. But getting some kills, too... might be good for my education.

[bustr]

well since the p39D is already the fastest and deadliest plane in the game...perhaps we should nerf her with wing bomb racks

Are you allergic to creating a wish specifically asking Hitech to mod the P-39Q with field mounted under wing bomb racks for 250lb bombs? P39's were rated for a single center line 500lb or a drop tank. Then the question becomes data to account for the mod. Like all those other wishes where the "we" tell Hitech he can just reuse the parent version data with a minor tweek, "we" are just sure Hitech can manage out of thin air.

The ubiquitous "we".

Ooh, Ooh we should have lazer dingles blow out of our kesters when we talk on VOX, yeah!!!!! Bzz, bzzz bz bz bz bzzzzzz 

[bangsbox]

Are you allergic to creating a wish specifically asking Hitech to mod the P-39Q with field mounted under wing bomb racks for 250lb bombs? P39's were rated for a single center line 500lb or a drop tank. Then the question becomes data to account for the mod. Like all those other wishes where the "we" tell Hitech he can just reuse the parent version data with a minor tweek, "we" are just sure Hitech can manage out of thin air.

The ubiquitous "we".

Ooh, Ooh we should have lazer dingles blow out of our kesters when we talk on VOX, yeah!!!!! Bzz, bzzz bz bz bz bzzzzzz 

lol, no I am aware of the no field mod quasi rule. But hey! isnt the claw just a field mod la7?

[PJ_Godzilla]

Ooh, Ooh we should have lazer dingles blow out of our kesters when we talk on VOX, yeah!!!!! Bzz, bzzz bz bz bz bzzzzzz 

I vote +1 on the Porcine God's Laser Dingles!  I want to have 3 settings on the fart, though: laser dingles, flaming gas, and vile foul-smelling torrent o' caustic liquid...

Oh, wait, I've already got 2 of those.

More laser dingles, please!