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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2015, 04:59:37 AM »
Gman, how did you get around the restricted weapon in Canada?

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2015, 08:43:00 AM »
Re:Optics--> Going to start out slow, like $125-$200 price range. If I'm still digging black rifles, I'll upgrade to EOTech - level optics later.
I have to drive a beater before I upgrade to the best. :)

I'd save that money and just put it towards an EOTech, and if needed, a riser to co-witness the sights.  You'll know in very little time if you enjoy shooting it, or if it doesn't live up to what you thought it would.  EOTechs aren't that expensive, and you can often find them in good quality, used, on AR15.com.  I've had one for what seems like forever, and it's probably the best, and most useful addition I've made to this AR. 

Just a thought.  The old 'buy once, cry once' adage. :)

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2015, 12:52:23 PM »
That should be fine rifle.  As for addicting...wait until you start building them.  Its not complicated and there are an endless amount of variations.

My latest is a slab side (no forward assist or ejection port cover) flat top stripped upper, DPMS stripped lower, CMMG lower parts, do it yourself trigger job, 20" stag 1:9 barrel, no name BCG, BCM charging handle, Troy 15" battle rail and ATI stock/grip.  Pretty inexpensive build that shoots really well.

Watching arpartsfinder.com and picking up a piece or two when they are on sale keeps the cost down.
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Offline Gman

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2015, 01:05:54 PM »
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Gman, how did you get around the restricted weapon in Canada?

What do you mean "how did you get around"?  That doesn't even make sense.  Yes AR platform rifles (most of them) are in the restricted class.  So?  I have over a dozen variants.  I know some that have far more in Canada.  The only difference here is there is no short barrel/form 1 or whatever difference like in the  USA, all ARs regardless of length are in the same class and similarly restricted to transport and storage requirements, as well as only being able to be fired on approved ranges.

The RCMP estimates there are over 100k AR15 rifles in the Canadian registry.  They aren't uncommon by any means.  The only difference is while in country/Canada the magazines are limited to 5 rounds, which is a large joke, since the RCMP approves of a .25 cent pop rivet blocking the follower to only letting 5 rounds in the magazine being "in compliance", something that can be removed in less than a minute if somebody really cared to.

Do you have restricted confused with prohibited?  There are some rifles that were put in the 12-5 rifle class, which is a prohib class, but you can still keep them if you were grandfathered in, which I was, but few if any AR15 class rifles fell into that classification.
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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2015, 02:20:55 PM »
Only 100k black rifles in Mooseville?!? Oh crikey, we'll be protecting you from Zombies as well as foreign invasions!  :cheers:

I read somewhere around 8 or 9 million here in 'Merica. Bring on the ISIS clowns!  :aok :noid

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2015, 03:06:02 PM »
I have one of most of the major players when it comes to Dots. Eotech are great because they take the normal AA batteries other than that the size is a big draw back to me.

For a budget try Primary arms. I put one on my 45 sub gun and its held up nicely and i haven't turned it off in 8 months. Shot two pigs with it this weekend. Clear glass and a clean dot.

I have sold most of my 223 guns opting for a 30 cal solution but i do still have a Benelli Mr1. With the 223 neck shots are a must so i put a beater 3x9 scope on it and use it as a camp rifle.

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2015, 03:24:28 PM »

Are black guns addicting? ;)

IMO, yes. It's what's most prevalent in my collection. Part of the beauty of it is the bewildering variety of styles and nationalities.

And, of course, you can accessorize with a nice black pistol, and everything matches.
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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2015, 04:46:11 PM »
Can't go wrong with a Colt, as long as it's not one of the Colt Competition or Umarex (i.e. licensed) builds.

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2015, 05:01:20 PM »
Only 100k black rifles in Mooseville?!? Oh crikey, we'll be protecting you from Zombies as well as foreign invasions!



  Nah we just pee on their feet and they freeze in place.... no zombie problems here!

   If that doesnt work we use our super secret snowballs!


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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2015, 05:39:12 PM »
Only 100k black rifles

But Canada's population is 1/10th of the US, so that is like 1M of them in the US -- not that bad.

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2015, 07:42:02 PM »


  Nah we just pee on their feet and they freeze in place.... no zombie problems here!

   If that doesnt work we use our super secret snowballs!


   :salute

YaSureYouBetcha, we've heard about those.


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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2015, 07:46:49 PM »
Somewhere in heaven, Sergei Simonov weeps... <shakes head>
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2015, 07:50:39 PM »
Somewhere in heaven, Sergei Simonov weeps... <shakes head>

Hey, don't blame me. Blame a Vietnamese friend at the gun range (Parents immigrated during the 75' Saigon exit). He let me shoot two of his black guns at the range. Damn....that's all I can say. Then the 3 month research/search began.

Even Vietnamese give up commie crap for US crap. :)

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2015, 07:59:53 PM »
Hey, don't blame me. Blame a Vietnamese friend at the gun range (Parents immigrated during the 75' Saigon exit). He let me shoot two of his black guns at the range. Damn....that's all I can say. Then the 3 month research/search began.

Even Vietnamese give up commie crap for US crap. :)

Perhaps he had something against them, A lot of Older US Veterans hate the SKS and AK... Anything Commie for that matter. Something about being shot at in South East Asia probably has something to do with it. :)
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: My first "Black Gun"
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2015, 09:55:35 PM »
Perhaps he had something against them, A lot of Older US Veterans hate the SKS and AK... Anything Commie for that matter. Something about being shot at in South East Asia probably has something to do with it. :)

I get that, but both have their virtues. The first semiauto rifle I ever bought was a Chinese Simonov with both a milled receiver and a chromed barrel. I bought a couple thousand rounds of Chinese AP Ammo in these big sardine tins at the same time. It was really cheap and cheerful and you can literally put hundreds of rounds through it, get it dirty, roll it in the mud and it will keep working. You can buy 30 rounders for it or even drums, or, if you like, use the ten round strip per clips. 7.62x39 is lighter than 7.62x51 nato and more stable than .223, if not more lethal.

Later, I added weapons, A LaFrance FN, a bushmaster h-bar, etc, but eventually I made myself buy a folding stock milled receiver Bulgarian AKS. If I had to have 1rifle, that would be the one. It's light, lethal, reliable, surprisingly accurate, and it doesn't have a creepy Chinese trigger or lots of difficult little parts to lose like the second piston in the Simonov or the little pins in the AR bolt and carrier assembly or the little adhpjustable gas block on the big FN. I wouldn't mind finding a nice Valmet in '51 or '39, just to get truly western build quality in an AK design. The only drawback, imj: no hold back on the carrier.
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