Author Topic: How is it done?  (Read 4092 times)

Offline Wiley

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Re: How is it done?
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2015, 11:11:34 AM »
Meathead's right, it's just a fact of online gaming.  The good news is it goes both ways, as he stated.

You've just got to assume anything you see regarding other planes' gunnery is an approximation, nothing more.  The better the ping times are on both ends, the closer of an approximation it is.  When all is said and done though about all you can say for certain when you see or hear the bandit's guns firing, is that he's shooting at you.  Where the tracers are on your end is almost meaningless.

When I'm defensive against another plane, one of the main things I keep in mind is they've always got a slightly better gunnery position than it appears they have.  I err on the side of caution to make sure I'm out of their way, but it makes getting the shot on the overshoot a lot more difficult.

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Offline Scca

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Re: How is it done?
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2015, 11:28:56 AM »
Probably because he said the same thing you did and you said you disagreed a little with that.

If you had more lag you'd see less variation in total lag from different players.

Ummm  He said
The lag is not an advantage. He is most likely having the same lagged view as you are. I.E. you also are shooting him at angles he sees can not hit him.

HiTech

I challenged it saying it's situational.  Now if I could guarantee that never would anyone be on my six, then more lag could be a true advantage.  Since that's not the case, more lag could be a disadvantage. 

No outrage here, just pointing something out. 
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Offline Wiley

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Re: How is it done?
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2015, 11:36:29 AM »
Ummm  He said
I challenged it saying it's situational.  Now if I could guarantee that never would anyone be on my six, then more lag could be a true advantage.  Since that's not the case, more lag could be a disadvantage. 

No outrage here, just pointing something out.

I think what HT is saying is, it's not an unfair advantage.  If a high-lag opponent is defensive, it's equally as bad for him as when you're defensive, which you pretty much stated in your first post.

Hold hands, kumbaya, and all that. :)

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Re: How is it done?
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2015, 11:48:18 AM »
Nope.  Why do you ask?

Because you trying to frame it into words, "He has an advantage" which would go on  as a perpetual myth that some one who has more Lag has an advantage over some one who doesn't.

But yet you clearly do not think it is an advantage because you don't want to be the guy with the lag.

I understand what you are saying about both disadvantage and advantage. But many people do not (see threads about collisions). So I am simply trying to make it clear that lag is NOT a good thing.

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Re: How is it done?
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2015, 12:00:25 PM »
Because you trying to frame it into words, "He has an advantage" which would go on  as a perpetual myth that some one who has more Lag has an advantage over some one who doesn't.

But yet you clearly do not think it is an advantage because you don't want to be the guy with the lag.

I understand what you are saying about both disadvantage and advantage. But many people do not (see threads about collisions). So I am simply trying to make it clear that lag is NOT a good thing.

HiTech
Fair enough, it's about optics.  I agree, less lag is better, zero would be preferred, but as Wiley said it's a limitation we are stuck with, and hopefully with education comes understanding, and with understanding, acceptance.  Nothing you can do will make the internet faster, so I feel you have made a good compromise that works. 

Dale, I know you have to deal with some real crap every day, and the shield of the internet makes people mean as hell.  I don't envy your position, but I thank you for sticking it out.  Sending thick skin your way.  I can't play as much as I want to, but when I do, your invention is a blast.   :salute
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