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Offline Gman

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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2015, 04:27:05 PM »
Buying carriers too expensive!  Build islands which like no moving carriers instead!

Some of these atolls they've built up are a ridiculous distance from China - it'd be like Canada building an island off California and declaring the waters there sovereign. 

China is in no position to challenge US militarily.  For now.  Look at them from say 2005 to now.  In ten more years - they are building a LOT of pretty decent naval ships, a large submarine force too.  They have hundreds of stealthy and very fast missile boats too, that alone could flip close to 1000 high mach SSMs at US/Allied naval forces.  Having runways and logistics on all these little islands is a very serious threat, one that is too late to stop now.

How anyone could think that eventual war, or surrender of the Pacific sea lanes/control by the US/Allies isn't going to happen is beyond me.  Eventually China will think itself having enough resources and capability to challenge the US Navy/USAF, and then won't back down or just issue "me so angry" press releases.  And that day will come sooner than later IMO.

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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2015, 05:23:47 PM »
Then they should put a boat in harms way.  We can cover it with air.  But there needs to be other flags involved in this besides ours. 

If the heavy fighting starts, sure, we'll have to carry the weight, but this part is political.  China is already trying to spin this as unilateral American aggression. 

They need to demonstrate that every single country in the region is standing with the US in this with more than just words.  Every week a different nations navy needs to buzz by in rotation.

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They have.  Take a gander at this:
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/07/world/south-china-sea-dispute/
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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2015, 05:48:48 PM »
They have.  Take a gander at this:
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/07/world/south-china-sea-dispute/

That's a good start.  Now we need a vessel as well to join the patrol rotation.

Australia too.
Japan too.
South Korea too.

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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2015, 09:56:51 PM »
Sorry, but the lead up of public announcements were BS.  It was all staged and the outcome was pre-ordained. 
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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2015, 06:57:14 AM »
Sorry, but the lead up of public announcements were BS.  It was all staged and the outcome was pre-ordained.
What does this even mean?

Of course the outcome was known.  What do you think, the Chinese were actually going to shoot at us?  We were making a point, that we don't acknowledge Chinese claims in the SCS based on their artificial islands.  The point was made by us sailing through their so called territory ignoring their warnings and demands, which were obviously going to be made.
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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2015, 08:25:59 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/26/us-southchinasea-usa-idUSKCN0SK2AC20151026

God's speed to those who put themselves in harms way.

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Harms way with the Chinese?

The country that gets the most investments from the US

You don't actually think anything will happen?

Do you?

We have real wars in the world and you have to worry about pretend ones :old:
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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2015, 11:27:28 AM »
Harms way with the Chinese?

The country that gets the most investments from the US

You don't actually think anything will happen?

Do you?

We have real wars in the world and you have to worry about pretend ones :old:



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I think anytime you have the young men of two nations full of testosterone and armed to the teeth getting eyeball to eyeball...accidents can happen.

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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2015, 03:19:34 PM »
I think anytime you have the young men of two nations full of testosterone and armed to the teeth getting eyeball to eyeball...accidents can happen.

-Wab

They added some estrogens in the mix ;


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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2015, 03:28:48 PM »
The women need hats. The guy gets one. Sheesh.

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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2015, 06:18:52 PM »
Karnak,
It's pretty simple but I can try to repeat so you can understand....

The sail past was merely meant to appease allies and have the appearance of taking a stand.  It was announced well in advance to allow the Chinese ample warning, and likely was negotiated with Beijing in private, so that the response by Beijing could be made without losing face.

If the US was serious about it, they would have moved numerous warships through the area (with a tremendous amount of support) with no warning.
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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2015, 06:19:07 PM »
They added some estrogens in the mix ;

I searched, but I can find no emoticon sufficiently dismissive to respond to that meme.

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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2015, 03:41:37 AM »
Karnak,
It's pretty simple but I can try to repeat so you can understand....

The sail past was merely meant to appease allies and have the appearance of taking a stand.  It was announced well in advance to allow the Chinese ample warning, and likely was negotiated with Beijing in private, so that the response by Beijing could be made without losing face.

If the US was serious about it, they would have moved numerous warships through the area (with a tremendous amount of support) with no warning.

No!

It's war!

Arrest this man!

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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2015, 06:35:34 AM »
It was a secret meeting to discuss the next Jackie Chan movie  :old:
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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2015, 04:33:00 PM »
No!

It's war!

Arrest this man!

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Re: US Navy Destroyer to Run Spratly Gauntlet within next 24 Hours
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2015, 07:38:03 AM »
Pies?
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
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