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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2015, 04:35:57 PM »
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ADDRESSED BULLET DROP.  A BULLET LIKE AN ARROW ONLY TRAVELS SO FAR BEFORE GRAVIFY STRARTS TO EFFECT FLIGHT PATH.  THAT DISTANCE OF FLIGHT IS CALLED POINT BLANK.  AFTER THAT  AN ARC HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED TO HIT YOUR MARK.  LIKE A  BALL BEING THROWN.

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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2015, 04:52:48 AM »
I ran into an interview of a luftwaffe pilot who had pretty vivid view of flying a 190D and the interviewer asked him about tracers and tracer colours. I recall that he did not remember any particular colours, just that they were dim streaks of light in certain intervals depending of the belting.

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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2015, 02:55:08 PM »
Cognizance of tracers was more pronounced with German AA gunners because they were taught to use the tracer stream to judge lead. Early gunsights were analog devices that a spotter would manualy move an elevation rod while the gunner sighted the tracers for lead. Eventually an optical sight with an analog controlled vertical lead line was introduced. German pilots were taught to rely on their ability to use the Revi reticle. I suspect with time and experience the totality of the sight picture is more important to a veteran of many air fights.

Depending on the use and time of day, Bordwaffenmunition had different intensities of tracer brightness. AA tracers had to be bright because they were used for lead estimation. I'm not sure if the other countries used this same distinction for their tracer rounds.

   
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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2015, 03:02:26 PM »
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ADDRESSED BULLET DROP.  A BULLET LIKE AN ARROW ONLY TRAVELS SO FAR BEFORE GRAVIFY STRARTS TO EFFECT FLIGHT PATH.  THAT DISTANCE OF FLIGHT IS CALLED POINT BLANK.  AFTER THAT  AN ARC HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED TO HIT YOUR MARK.  LIKE A  BALL BEING THROWN. 

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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2015, 04:07:33 PM »
I would gauge that a 32.2 Krusties Zoney.

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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2015, 05:59:09 PM »
I would gauge that a 32.2 Krusties Zoney.

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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2015, 06:56:06 PM »
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ADDRESSED BULLET DROP.  A BULLET LIKE AN ARROW ONLY TRAVELS SO FAR BEFORE GRAVIFY STRARTS TO EFFECT FLIGHT PATH.  THAT DISTANCE OF FLIGHT IS CALLED POINT BLANK.  AFTER THAT  AN ARC HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED TO HIT YOUR MARK.  LIKE A  BALL BEING THROWN.

X and Y axis are independent of each other.  Bullet starts dropping as soon as it exits the barrel.
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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2015, 07:35:28 PM »
X and Y axis are independent of each other.  Bullet starts dropping as soon as it exits the barrel.

Yep , the only reason a bullet arc's is to meet your point of aim.

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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2015, 11:15:55 AM »
I found that using the historically accurate 1 tracer per 5 rounds to be very effective method during testing. I wonder why HTC don't have this option because every round emitting a tracer can make the front view very busy in terms of particle effects.

I've always felt more comfortable with the tracers turned on. I always use the gun sight for the initial vector interception calculations of the target. All though I would use the tracers to make adjustments. My normal fire routine would be as follows:

Aim, quick squirt, check tracers, repeat.



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Re: Let's Talk Tracer Rounds
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2015, 01:26:36 PM »
I always knew I was in for trouble when I found someone on my six and could hear hit pings but could not see any tracers.  Usually the sign of a pro. 
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