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Offline kilz

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Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« on: November 20, 2015, 02:02:52 PM »
From some digging around I'm told I would need the gtx 980 with at least 2gb just to run ah3 smooth .That's like 550 to 600 bucks .

Does anyone know if that price will be dropping soon?

I haven't played in 3 years and my old tower is shot .Was considering building a new one until I heard that news. 550-650 for a video card is about half the price it would cost me to build a tower .
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 02:21:29 PM »
If you are sticking with 1080p resolutions, the NVidia 970 should be plenty to handle AH3 with almost all the bells and whistles on (environmental mapping will still choke most video cards).

But it is still ALPHA.  We are not done yet.  People talking about the hardware requirements for AH3 are being VERY premature.  We have no idea what the final requirements will be yet.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 02:24:12 PM »
Roy your still making me cry lol.

How long till I have to upgrade if I buy the 980
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2015, 02:33:28 PM »
We still have a Beta period to go through.

Also consider this.  If you have a solid dual core 3Ghz CPU with plenty of system RAM (8GB or more), then all you may really need is a new video card.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 03:11:38 PM »
If you have a solid dual core 3Ghz CPU with plenty of system RAM (8GB or more), then all you may really need is a new video card.

That being the case, people should be looking at this chart: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

If your CPU scores high on that (and is at least a dual-core), then you should be good to go.  If not, get the chip highest on that chart that you can afford.  The Pentium G3258 looks like a particularly good value in this regard (but personally I like a quad-core so I can do other things like encode video). 

I would really try to at least get something like the i3-6100, which uses the latest motherboard tech, has hyperthreading, and isn't too much more expensive than the Pentium G series.  Wouldn't go with AMD because their individual core speeds are really bad as evidenced on that chart.  You can do significantly better, even for the money, with Intel.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2015, 05:03:49 PM »
That being the case, people should be looking at this chart: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

If your CPU scores high on that (and is at least a dual-core), then you should be good to go.  If not, get the chip highest on that chart that you can afford.  The Pentium G3258 looks like a particularly good value in this regard (but personally I like a quad-core so I can do other things like encode video). 

I would really try to at least get something like the i3-6100, which uses the latest motherboard tech, has hyperthreading, and isn't too much more expensive than the Pentium G series.  Wouldn't go with AMD because their individual core speeds are really bad as evidenced on that chart.  You can do significantly better, even for the money, with Intel.

Thank you for that info
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2015, 10:49:43 PM »
From some digging around I'm told I would need the gtx 980 with at least 2gb just to run ah3 smooth .That's like 550 to 600 bucks .

Does anyone know if that price will be dropping soon?

I haven't played in 3 years and my old tower is shot .Was considering building a new one until I heard that news. 550-650 for a video card is about half the price it would cost me to build a tower .

as i mention before i have a nice MB i will sell cheap and i have given you 3 good options for a cpu 1 of which was mention on this thread ( Pentium G3258 ). as Skuzzy said the nivida 970 will handle the next AH 3 which runs in the $300 range. http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=lp_284822_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448166912&sr=1-2
about all you will need for a new system is a power supply and ram and a case to put it all in . my guess is with all of the above info you could put together a new system for around $500 to  $600 tops for everything but the windows OS.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2015, 11:38:17 AM »
That being the case, people should be looking at this chart: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

If your CPU scores high on that (and is at least a dual-core), then you should be good to go.  If not, get the chip highest on that chart that you can afford.  The Pentium G3258 looks like a particularly good value in this regard (but personally I like a quad-core so I can do other things like encode video). 

I would really try to at least get something like the i3-6100, which uses the latest motherboard tech, has hyperthreading, and isn't too much more expensive than the Pentium G series.  Wouldn't go with AMD because their individual core speeds are really bad as evidenced on that chart.  You can do significantly better, even for the money, with Intel.


I have built both Intel and AMD systems.....but going by that Intel biased chart........... my AMD Phenom II 975 BE quad core, which is way down at the bottom, runs circles around my Intel i7-2600K which is way up the chart a good ways and my AMD FX4350 BE quad core ( which is not as good as my phenom II 975 ) holds par to my Intel i7.....

I admit, Intel is great at doing video editing, etc.... but I haven't had an intel system yet be able to keep up with any AMD system I've had that I used to do AutoCAD work on

and as far as these flight sim games, in Air Warrior, I had to use a batch file to slow the processing down back in the mid 90's, and I haven't had an Intel out preform an AMD system since HTC was in beta and I had an overclocked Intel Celeron 333 running AH with a 16 meg videocard..... ( I think the total Aces High game download was something like 12 to 14 MB's back then )

for certain things intel is great ( work related ) and for other work related stuff AMD is great........ but to click on that intel biased link above, bout has me laughing so hard I can barely stay balanced in my chair.....

some might call me an AMD Fanboi, but I am not.... I use both AMD and Intel systems, depending on what I am doing or working on........( not so much these days since I am now disabled and retired.........but old colleagues and corporations still call on me when they get in a jam or need a fresh look at a problem )

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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2015, 12:49:12 PM »
I have built both Intel and AMD systems.....but going by that Intel biased chart........... my AMD Phenom II 975 BE quad core, which is way down at the bottom, runs circles around my Intel i7-2600K which is way up the chart a good ways and my AMD FX4350 BE quad core ( which is not as good as my phenom II 975 ) holds par to my Intel i7.....

You're the only one that believes that to be true.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4310/amd-phenom-ii-x4-980-black-edition-review/9
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/core-i5-2500k-vs-phenom-ii-x4-975-be-cpu-review/16
http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=663&Itemid=63&limit=1&limitstart=12

I could go on, there's pages and pages of links to reviews on Google.  Unless you're going to tell me that every review site on the internet is Intel biased, you're just wrong.  All of AMD's CPUs stink at single-thread performance compared to what Intel offers at the same price.  Even the Black Edition, which no one should buy.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2015, 08:47:21 AM »
MSI 980 newegg $439     should, will run 1440 just fine...... can't afford a monitor big enough to do 4K....

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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2015, 02:59:29 PM »
I have not checked on the price of the new ASUS 20th anniversary 980 Ti, but if I was looking I would get one of them.

https://www.techpowerup.com/217884/asus-announces-geforce-gtx-980-ti-20th-anniversary-gold-edition.html
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2015, 07:35:07 PM »
I'm about to pull the trigger on a new build and am going to put a 970 in it.  They're around the $300 range.
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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2015, 08:12:54 PM »
You're the only one that believes that to be true.

very doubtful, most just don't feel like arguing with a cynical person..

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4310/amd-phenom-ii-x4-980-black-edition-review/9
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/core-i5-2500k-vs-phenom-ii-x4-975-be-cpu-review/16
http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=663&Itemid=63&limit=1&limitstart=12

again, rolling out of my chair laughing because the 2nd link you posted is infused with intel money, because of that big arse intel advertisement...
as far as anandtech goes, I actually read that website a lot and btw, I did not say crap about a suckarse AMD phenom II 980, in which I knew better than purchase..

I could go on, there's pages and pages of links to reviews on Google.  Unless you're going to tell me that every review site on the internet is Intel biased, you're just wrong.  All of AMD's CPUs stink at single-thread performance compared to what Intel offers at the same price.  Even the Black Edition, which no one should buy.

1st off, you are the one who everytime someone says anything regarding AMD, you post a reply that talks crap about AMD and blow your holy whistle horn about Intel...

fact is, I use both Intel and AMD, dufus, and I even said Intel is good at things.... but I will not fall for the BS cpu benchmarks because Intel is built and functions differently than AMD, until people start realizing this, they will never understand why Intel is always out performing AMD on these bloody cpu benchmark charts......

lets try Real World on for size, I been computing and building computers since something like 85/86? and I have seen when Intel blow-ed AMD or Cirius, etc away and I have seen the other side when AMD, Cirrius, etc has blown Intel away....( I am in the early 90's thru 2000+ here )....

edit:I must add..... I have worked with apple computers also, My Mom and Dad's trucking company hauled Macintosh and Apple I and Apple II computers to military bases back in the 80's..... I have had a few good mac's as well....

until you yourself has built 90+or a 100 or more computers, both Intel and AMD ( probably 38/39% Intel to the rest AMD) and have run the numbers and seen the actual real life outcome, please STFU........

If someone wants to build an Intel system, Great more power to them, and if they want to build an AMD system, that is fine too.... but quit pulling BS internet crap reports where the cpu benchmark software will always favor the Intel more times than not....

also, go reread the damn links you posted, and please cut and paste to your reply, where some of the AMD cpu's tested beat out the Intel cpu's.....

in closing, my AMD Phenom II 975 X4 has clocked out back in 2011 at 5.1+ GHz for 12+ hours on prime95 running on air cool, the same test was run on my Intel i7-2600K and it was running at 5.1 GHz air cooled........ btw I don't over clock normally........ it was a test to see how well a $1100.00+ build of AMD kept up with a damn $3K Intel build...... and it still smokes that Intel builds arse as we text......

I do like Intel though, even if their product is high price, reason being, is because they perform better than AMD at certain things.....

ok, now since I have responded to your biased reply BoilerDown, I think I will go have a drink and fly in AH and shoot some planes down......

good luck with your fanboisim of Intel!

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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2015, 08:38:51 PM »
However, I do use ADIA64 Extreme on all my PC builds...... I think it might was called Everest at one time awhile back...

and even using it, which to me tells a more true tell of the tape, I have seen where some of my AMD builds kept up or even kicked the snot out of the Intel builds.. sometimes Intel is the king of the hill, but other times AMD is........ then if you want to include loading games and testing, the truth becomes even clearer....

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Re: Nvidia GTX 980 TI
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2015, 09:18:53 PM »

typically the price will drop when a newer card in the same class is released. So probably spring/summer 2016.  Looks like they are still releasing pretty much every year (several times a year actually).  If they top the Titan X with something even better, the prices of the others should be pushed down. Meanwhile AH3 is still in Alpha so probably wait for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_900_Series


Does anyone know if that price will be dropping soon?

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