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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2016, 08:18:40 PM »

I don't think this is true.  By definition, if you exceed critical AofA, you're in a stall and you've lost virtually all lift.

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Do you have a link for that definition?

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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2016, 01:16:54 AM »
In game or real-life?

I should have said you can fly stalled but you can't maintain level flight below stall speed. 


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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2016, 08:40:45 AM »

http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Stall

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_12/attack_story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stall_(fluid_mechanics)#cite_ref-Crane_1-0

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/incline.html

I imagine there are others.

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None of your links refer to losing virtually all lift. They simply say there is a reduction in lift. This is not in dispute and is shown in the graphs posted in the thread.
How much the lift is reduced after Clmax varies with the wing design. It's sharper in jets for example than in typical WW2 fighters.
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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2016, 10:17:15 AM »
Max rudder and crab on approach.

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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2016, 11:01:11 AM »
See Rule #4

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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2016, 12:06:55 PM »

I don't think this is true.  By definition, if you exceed critical AofA, you're in a stall and you've lost virtually all lift.

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Very common misconception, when only slightly into the  stall the wing is still generating almost as much lift as just before the stall. See the graph I posted.

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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2016, 11:21:29 PM »
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Pies not kicks.

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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2016, 04:39:19 AM »
"This produces a strong nose-up pitch in the aircraft, which can lead to more of the wing stalling, the lift moving further forward, and so forth. This chain reaction is considered very dangerous and was known as the pitch-up."


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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2016, 11:17:37 AM »
So, has anyone learned how to land a 262 yet?



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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2016, 05:35:23 PM »
So, has anyone learned how to land a 262 yet?

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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2016, 11:20:14 PM »
  So did I.  And I learned a bunch of other things as well.
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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2016, 11:38:34 AM »
I learned how to better manage landing in a 262. I wouldn't say it was difficult before, but it was something of a puzzle trying to scrub speed and manage an approach without some of this knowledge. Good stuff

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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2016, 05:51:48 AM »
So, has anyone learned how to land a 262 yet?
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Re: Landing a 262
« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2016, 07:24:34 AM »
What I do know if you lose flaps it's really hard to slow down. And if you have 1 engine you have to be careful kicking rudder back and forth or you flat spin. I did learn how to land deadstick tho :)
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