Spit fighting style

[mikev]

  Well i think i finally got to the bottom of my death ratio. i dont think it is so much my flying but more my flying style. no i do not use the crane style or the monkey style, sometimes i try the drunken style but mostly i go with the fearless style. just strap myself in and FIGHT. get right in there and duke it out, no fear.
  so will i ever change that i dont know. maybe someday, but for now its  a lot more fun to be surrounded by 40 cons all trying to kill little ole me . someday i hope to get back into a squad like i was with Muzzy where we used more wing man tactics, but for now there will be lots of planes on my 6 for easy pickins (hint hint).. enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSXaMRi2AGs

[Vudak]

Hi Mike,

It seems to me that you are babying that hat switch...  You need to wear it out I don't know what you fly with for a joystick but if at all possible, you want to map a button on your throttle (or anywhere you can reach it without taking your thumb off the hat switch or trigger finger off the trigger) to the "UP" view so that you can press this and the hat switch and double your views.  I have a CH set up and also have a button for "DOWN" but this is not as vital.

A common theme in the few fights here is that you lost sight of your opponent or had no idea what they were doing. 

When you were on the attack in the first fight, the LA7 was below you doing something unknown - you didn't look for him.  For all you know he chopped throttle and was climbing on your six.

With the dodger fight, at 3:45, you lose sight of him and never regain it.  Try to forecast where he's going to be based on where he was headed when you last saw him (I think he was going to be in your UP six, showing the need for that view).  You lost site and you lost the fight, he had reversed and was on you by the time you recovered visual, and that was only 7-8 seconds later.

In the last fight, you were doing some defensive maneuvers, but weren't even looking where your opponents were, so had you escaped, it would have been blind luck.  How can you know when to scissor or dodge if you aren't looking at what they're doing?

I think you'll find that a lot of the more experienced sticks around here probably fly looking straight ahead the least while in combat.  Their eyes always on the bad guys all around them instead.

There's other things like aim (not that I can really talk) and choice of maneuver but I think the fact that you just don't observe what is going on is going to get you killed more than anything else you're doing.  That was what stuck out the most.

Luckily, that's an easy thing to fix!

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[BuckShot]

Good advice.

If you have buttons on the throttle like I do on the Thrustmaster hotas, make one for look up, and even another for down if you have room.

As vudak said, using the look up and look down in conjunction with the hat switch will give all the "diagonal" or 45 deg up/down views.

I played for about a year without it, now I don't know how I ever managed.

Up 45 forward and up 45 back are two of my most used views.

[mikev]

thank you  i do have a mapped (look up) on my throttle im just not use to holding there when i am diving down same can be said when i am low. i have my 180 degree look back set for look back up.
 in the Dodger fight i am pretty sure i made my mistake diving down on him while he was climbing, being to aggressive. by giving up my advantage this way even if i saw him make the turn back into me i had little chance.
 in the second fight notice at the 7.42 mark i clearly saw the ki84 turning into me , i gave him the choice to follow me or break off , he choose to follow me down in fact i had thought i shook him by the 8.25 mark but noticed i still saw him , then the tree jumped up ending the fight. the only good thing about the fight was he never got a gun solution on me. 

[bustr]

Are you in a position to get a TrackIR?

[mikev]

Are you in a position to get a TrackIR?

i have track ir still trying to get use to the disorientation in offline flying . perhaps its the profile im using. 1 thing for sure is i wish it would work with my preset hat views instead of going back to default view.

[Drano]

i have track ir still trying to get use to the disorientation in offline flying . perhaps its the profile im using. 1 thing for sure is i wish it would work with my preset hat views instead of going back to default view.

It will take some time before turning your head to change views becomes a natural thing like using the hat switch does. It is what it is. But once you get the hang of it you'll wonder how you ever got along without it.

You know you can pause TIR and use your saved views? Put a pause command in your profile and then map it to a button on your stick.

I find myself going back and forth all the time. Sometimes the hat switch is just faster.

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[mikev]

It will take some time before turning your head to change views becomes a natural thing like using the hat switch does. It is what it is. But once you get the hang of it you'll wonder how you ever got along without it.

You know you can pause TIR and use your saved views? Put a pause command in your profile and then map it to a button on your stick.

I find myself going back and forth all the time. Sometimes the hat switch is just faster.

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  ha never knew you could do that , thank you !!! will give it a try

[Gman]

I use a hybrid trackIR / Thumb hat for views still too.  TrackIR is great, but I find that it just isn't as fast or direct as the old method of using my 8 way hat combined with the pinky "up view" switch, which gives me SA on targets and threats faster than TrackIR does - moving entire neck/head is slower than a thumb and eyeball is all.  At least for me.

As I get more accustomed to TrackIR it may become more efficient than switching it off and using the old hat (get it) methods, but for now, I'm faster and better doing it this way.

[FLS]

When you use the hat or KP views with TrackIR the big problem is looking back. You can fix that by moving your head to the side before you look back with the hat.

i have my 180 degree look back set for look back up.

How do you see directly behind you?

[Vudak]

My wife is often in the same room as me as I fly and she enjoys making fun of me pretty much the entire time... I think I'm going to stick with the hatswitch but if you guys can get away with trackir, all the more power to you!

[mikev]

My wife is often in the same room as me as I fly and she enjoys making fun of me pretty much the entire time... I think I'm going to stick with the hatswitch but if you guys can get away with trackir, all the more power to you!

lol Vudak dont feel bad , at least she does not take pictures

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[Bruv119]

hmmmm  spit fighting style,

You have to wear it like a glove and fist everyone who comes within D600.   Simples. 

[Scca]

I use a hybrid trackIR / Thumb hat for views still too.  TrackIR is great, but I find that it just isn't as fast or direct as the old method of using my 8 way hat combined with the pinky "up view" switch, which gives me SA on targets and threats faster than TrackIR does - moving entire neck/head is slower than a thumb and eyeball is all.  At least for me.

As I get more accustomed to TrackIR it may become more efficient than switching it off and using the old hat (get it) methods, but for now, I'm faster and better doing it this way.

I tried to get use to TIR, but the action of turning my head right to look right, but moving my eyes left to keep looking at the screen was dizzying to me.  I keep it on for scanning when on climb out, and RTB, but kill it when the fight begins. 

[mikev]

I tried to get use to TIR, but the action of turning my head right to look right, but moving my eyes left to keep looking at the screen was dizzying to me.  I keep it on for scanning when on climb out, and RTB, but kill it when the fight begins.

exactly what happens to me. found myself hitting the center button all the time