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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2016, 11:34:16 AM »
RIP Al Jazeera America.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-al-jazeera-closure-idUSKCN0UR2O520160113

Well not really, they're just pulling out of the television market. So they're losing that least profitable demographic. That demo that still uses TV's, the obese, the dumb and the senile.

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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2016, 11:50:12 AM »
The boat broke down bit was spread by the talking heads long before the crew had been returned. It seemed to die rather suddenly before the return as well. Then the boats and crews were returned, under their own power.

Couple issues with the broken boat bit. First if the casualty was severe enough to render the boat without power then it likely wouldn't have been magically fixed by resting in an Iranian harbor overnight.

Secondly a mechanical casualty like that should have meant the sister boat would take the broken boat under tow until a larger vessel could meet up with them and either fix it or remove it while they were in international waters.

Another excuse given early was that one or both boats ran aground. That is a bit more believable IMO on the face of it as to why boat 2 did keep boat 1 in international waters. Then again I have no knowledge of water depth in said waters so can't be sure that running aground is a possibility either.

In either case I don't think we will know the real story at least until next January, if then, depending on who wins.

A result of this is certainly a publicity coup for Iran and a rather bad embarrassment for the Navy and the administration.
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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2016, 04:50:28 PM »
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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2016, 01:16:01 PM »
RIP Al Jazeera America.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-al-jazeera-closure-idUSKCN0UR2O520160113

Well not really, they're just pulling out of the television market. So they're losing that least profitable demographic. That demo that still uses TV's, the obese, the dumb and the senile.

Checkout this leftist propaganda!



The fact that you did not laugh at the gibberish says more about you :old:

A program made by a region that economies are based on oil annoys you?

The oil markets are controlled by the US so the program is daft :old:

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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2016, 11:34:15 AM »
Many veterans are livid that these two boats, with vastly more firepower than the Iranian Boston Whalers, were captured. Better yet, simply surrendered.

Rumors abound, but a friend who is a civilian employee at the Pentagon has said that the Navy Lt. in command of both boats ordered the surrender despite objections of the crews. Then, this knucklehead apologizes!

One question remains unanswered... Was he ordered to surrender from some higher command authority and why? If he did this in his own, he will likely face a courts-martial. If he did it under orders, where did those orders originate and who is responsible?

There is a great many unknowns here, and it reeks of subterfuge, because within 24 hours, there's a politically sensitive prisoner exchange between the US and Iran. This story will not go away as there are several members of the House and Senate, veterans all of them, who want some answers.

First, a boat breaking down is not a likely event. Moreover, the second boat would simply take the other in tow. Furthermore, charts show that the boats would drift southeast with the prevailing current, not due east. Second, any reports that the boats were taking a short-cut to Bahrain is nonsensical. The course is a straight line going nowhere near the claimed Iranian waters. It would take a colossal navigation blunder, which is extremely unlikely considering the navaids and charts on the boats. One could navigate from Kuwait to Bahrain using a water compass....

Something else was afoot here. As a Navy veteran, I find this entire incident unfathomable.
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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2016, 04:31:03 PM »
POTUS has made improving relations with Iran his legacy project...

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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2016, 12:20:58 AM »
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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2016, 05:16:34 PM »
Many veterans are livid that these two boats, with vastly more firepower than the Iranian Boston Whalers, were captured. Better yet, simply surrendered.

A lot of strange things in this story.

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2016, 05:40:53 PM »
Sounds resonable, what should they have done, Started a war?
   
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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2016, 06:11:00 PM »


First, a boat breaking down is not a likely event. Moreover, the second boat would simply take the other in tow. Furthermore, charts show that the boats would drift southeast with the prevailing current, not due east. Second, any reports that the boats were taking a short-cut to Bahrain is nonsensical. The course is a straight line going nowhere near the claimed Iranian waters. It would take a colossal navigation blunder, which is extremely unlikely considering the navaids and charts on the boats. One could navigate from Kuwait to Bahrain using a water compass....

Something else was afoot here. As a Navy veteran, I find this entire incident unfathomable.

The prevailing theory now is that the Iranians spoofed the USN boat's GPS (like they did to the drone they forced to land in Iran a couple of years ago) and causing USN crew to think they were in international waters when they were actually in Iranian waters.  Our government hasn't been forthcoming because they don't want to admit that Iran can spoof our GPS signals.
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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2016, 06:49:09 PM »
If so, why did both of them mechanically break down and have no commo?  The stories just don't make sense. 

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2016, 07:35:03 PM »
If so, why did both of them mechanically break down and have no commo?  The stories just don't make sense.

The DoD has never explained what the mechanical malfunction was and speculation is that both boats ran out of gas.  Both boats were supposed to meet up with another vessel for refueling but that vessel never arrived.
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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2016, 07:53:44 PM »
The prevailing theory now is that the Iranians spoofed the USN boat's GPS (like they did to the drone they forced to land in Iran a couple of years ago) and causing USN crew to think they were in international waters when they were actually in Iranian waters.  Our government hasn't been forthcoming because they don't want to admit that Iran can spoof our GPS signals.

I read about this yesterday, Iranians are not High-tech enough to hack into GPS ,but  there's a larger chess game taking place in the region, the real players sure can.

"It should be noted that GPS jammers are available on the civilian market and have been detected in use inside the United Kingdom. This revelation may also be the reasoning behind the U.S. decision to require drone operators to register their aircraft."

"The Story You Aren't Being Told About Iran Capturing Two American Vessels"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-20/story-you-arent-being-told-about-iran-capturing-two-american-vessels

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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2016, 08:13:36 PM »
Jamming GPS is one thing but how do you spoof GPS on specific vessels.  Would you not have to mess up everyone in the area?

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Re: Iran Captures US Navy Boats
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2016, 02:30:21 AM »
Jamming GPS is one thing but how do you spoof GPS on specific vessels.  Would you not have to mess up everyone in the area?

Don't know how it's done but supposedly not that really difficult to do.
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