Invidia 970

[Hassledbytheman]

Will this card get it done? I don't want to have any issues regarding framerate or graphics settings. I currently have a GTX 750 Ti and it fell on its rear end last night @ 19 frames on the deck.

Your input is appreciated, thanks.

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[Hajo]

Will this card get it done? I don't want to have any issues regarding framerate or graphics settings. I currently have a GTX 750 Ti and it fell on its rear end last night @ 19 frames on the deck.

Your input is appreciated, thanks.

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I just installed the 970 and yes you can set everything to max and hold refresh rate.

BTW the card I replaced was a 750Ti that had no problems with FRs when adjusted sliders down 30% from max

The 750Ti did very well in my machine.

[FLS]

You should wait until AH3 is released to buy a new video card.

[captain1ma]

im using a Nvidia GTX970. works great holds 60 frames with everything on, with no issues at all. I bought it because at the time it was the 4th best card, and I could afford it. its very pricey.

[Hassledbytheman]

Thanks for the input guys...it was very useful<S>

[Ack-Ack]

Will this card get it done? I don't want to have any issues regarding framerate or graphics settings. I currently have a GTX 750 Ti and it fell on its rear end last night @ 19 frames on the deck.

Your input is appreciated, thanks.

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You'd have to run the game at medium to low settings with that card, with the low settings being recommended.  Keep in mind too that it's beta and the game engine will be further optimized so you may see better frame rates with your card down the road.

[PJ_Godzilla]

That's funny - I had a very similar question. I just bought a second platform for AH, this one with the 970.

I'm now a little concerned by FLS' statement, but assume that I should be able to test the 970 performance on AHIII by using the beta, yes? What would you, FLS, recommend? IS the 970 not going to cut it in AHIII?

I also wonder, given that my old AH-dedicated platform, which is a Mac running W7 via bootcamp (does 50-60 fps in AHII, but at reduced slider settings) for how long will AHII be around after the cutover? I'm assuming it won't be and that everybody in an arena will be on the same version.

This will  mean that my dream of the virtual flight arena will require another, second platform. It's not to shade, btw. It's so that I can play in the DA with friends. Think about it: same room, same arena, both flier's perspectives visible to all in the room (guest on a 55" - I use a curved 29" UHD superwide). I'm even finishing the room with hangar-style art. It's a 600 sf space over my garage that my wife allowed me to earmark for the purpose.

[AKQwik]

I use the 970 and have not had a frame rate problem through alpha or beta testing.

[FLS]

I'm now a little concerned by FLS' statement, but assume that I should be able to test the 970 performance on AHIII by using the beta, yes? What would you, FLS, recommend? IS the 970 not going to cut it in AHIII?

My point is that you usually benefit from waiting until you need to buy a new video card.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Yes, the strategy is sound. My initial home test with AHIII implied that need for me. It sounds like the 970 will work for it.

There are two points here - the first being the one you made. The second, though, is that I'm trying to purchase now for a second platform and want to be sure that it'll work in the new game. Based on Qwik's comment, I'd say I'm probably safe.

I won't ask about the final transition from AHII-AHIII again. It was a dumb question to begin, given all the "two weeks" joking going on, and I say that without a hint of derision, having done plenty of development projects myself. AH's best strategy is to under-promise and over-deliver; a thing this relatively quiet purveyor seems to do, IMO.

In the end, and as a guy whose home desktops are Macs, though, I'll say I'm very pleasantly surprised at how much Windows desktop you can get for your money. I'm kind of disappointed that nobody seems to sell kits any more (did that a couple of times about a decade ago), but I'm assuming it's pretty easy to kitbash your typical cyberpower or Ibuypower desktop and swap crap in and out as the want or need presents. You PC geeks are winning me over - since you seem to be able to get some pretty good power at a discount relative to and of the Macs.

Perhaps a wirehead here could give me a clue on a different question I'm having. When we start to look at processor and graphics card interaction, how do you evaluate throughput? For example, if you put some higher-end AMD 8-core FX with a 970 and compare it to, I don't know, an i7 with a Radeon R9, how do you evaluate the expected performance delta up front?

[hitech]

but I'm assuming it's pretty easy to kitbash your typical cyberpower or Ibuypower desktop and swap crap in and out as the want or need presents. You PC geeks are winning me over - since you seem to be able to get some pretty good power at a discount relative to and of the Macs.

No kits, you simply purchase each component from something like new egg.

Box
Power Supply
Mother board
cpu  possibly cooling fan may or may not be included.
memory.
Drives
Operating System
Possibly video card, most intels come with on board video.


HiTech

[bustr]

I think from my reading about the memory controller strategy with the 970, until you reach the last 512 of vram. It's running flat out at these bolded specs below which you should be able to run the defaults and higher without any FPS problems. I don't know if the AH3 will require vram into the last .5G of the 4G on the card.

NVIDIA 970
GDDR5 4G (first 3.5G BW is 224Gbyte\sec, last .5G lowers BW to 196Gbyte\sec)
Data Paths - 256bit while the first 3.5G vram in use. 224bit when last .5G vram accessed.
Band Width - 224 Gbyte\sec while first 3.5G vram in use. 196 Gbyte\sec when last .5G vram accessed.
Shaders - 1664

[Kanth]

I'm not a wirehead, but when I'm looking to purchase I'll go over to somewhere like tomshardware and look at benchmarks and recommendations to get a general idea of what's going on in the hardware world.

newegg sometimes also offers combo deals if you dont't want to detail everything out but want to base your system around a graphics card or CPU.

Perhaps a wirehead here could give me a clue on a different question I'm having. When we start to look at processor and graphics card interaction, how do you evaluate throughput? For example, if you put some higher-end AMD 8-core FX with a 970 and compare it to, I don't know, an i7 with a Radeon R9, how do you evaluate the expected performance delta up front?

[oboe]

You know I keep comparing my XFX Radeon R9 280X's specs to the 970, the 280X gives you more shaders and bandwidth.  It doesn't support FreeSync though, which is a disappointment.

I never could convince myself to spend more then $300 on a video card (at the time the 970 was around $350), I think around $250 seems to be a psychological limit for me.  And now its under $200 on Newegg.

The specs of the 280X:

    • 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5
    • 2048 Stream Processors
    • Total Memory Bandwidth 297 GByte/s

I can run 4096 Max Textures, with all the graphics options on and stay above my monitor's refresh rate of 60Hz.

Also, the site GPUBoss http://gpuboss.com/ has a nice comparison tool to compare video cards.

[Skuzzy]

Yes, but the 280 requires about 250W and the 970 only requires 145W.  For an upgrade, to an existing system, the 970 will usually slip right in, without requiring a power supply upgrade.

I know my home system would need a new power supply to use the 280, but will not need one for the 970, if I go that route.

Hopefully the next generation of AMD/ATI products will get the power back under control.  For the longest, they did a better job than NVidia did, in that area.