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Offline Meatwad

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Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« on: February 01, 2016, 10:18:02 PM »
This is sad, he owned a heating and cooling business and gave honest rates, and was the go-to guy when our furnace or AC went out. Always seen him and one of his friends fly over our house every weekend  :cry


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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2016, 11:55:44 PM »
Poor guy.  I wonder what happened.

I always had a desire to have a small personal flying craft or ultralight, but it just seems like they aren't that safe.

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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 01:28:16 PM »
Brooke here is a comparison I like, sourced from the bowels of the internet, comparing flying to motorcycles:

 Daytime flight over non-mountainous terrain: Like riding a motorcycle with full gear.

Daytime flight in instrument conditions or over mountainous terrain in clear air: Like riding a motorcycle with only a helmet.

Night flight over non-mountainous terrain: Like riding a motorcycle with a helmet but no headlight.

Night flight in instrument conditions over non-mountainous terrain: Like riding a motorcycle at night with a headlight but no helmet.

Night flight in instrument conditions over mountainous terrain: Like riding a motorcycle at night with no helmet, in the rain, over the speed limit.

Any flight in which the pilot says 'watch this sh*t' - Like riding a motorcycle at night with no helmet, over the speed limit, while drunk.

And here is a link to a safety video from John and Martha king, a very pertinent part starts at about 13:15:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHKbeT-EZHM

I think it is safe to generalize that small autogyros and ultralights can be operated with reasonable risk the problem is that it isn't as easy to do that as it is with other kinds of GA flying machines, and it might mean limiting yourself to flying only over open fields on calm days. Faulty design or construction can also crop up in the fleet but there are no doubt designs with better track records so for a serious study of risk you would probably have to limit yourself to a single design with a history in order to come to any kind of useful conclusion as to what the risk factors are.



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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 01:38:38 PM »
Always a shame when something goes wrong. I've been looking longingly at part 103 ultralights for the last couple of years, considering giving up the bikes and taking to the skies instead. Gyros are very very attractive to me, but I dont think I could get my wife to agree to anything without a ballistic parachute.
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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 03:38:56 PM »
Personally, I've flown in some of those trikes and ultralights... I did it to say I did. I would never want to repeat the process. Aviation in general isn't inherently dangerous, it's simply unforgiving. That being said, from my standpoint and experience, the ultralights and experimentals are restricted to flying over open wilderness for a very good reason.

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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 11:33:35 PM »
A neighbor of mine was a professor at Texas Wesleyan. His wife was one of my teachers in High School. He had a gyrocopter and you would see him flying out by the lake from time to time. One day something went wrong...
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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 12:44:24 AM »
From what I've heard the main safety issue with microlights/ultralights is that they're mostly flown by inexperienced pilots. They're made for sporting/hobby purposes rather than utility, so it's not really surprising.

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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2016, 10:00:17 AM »
From what I've heard the main safety issue with microlights/ultralights is that they're mostly flown by inexperienced pilots. They're made for sporting/hobby purposes rather than utility, so it's not really surprising.

While the pilots certainly ARE a factor, the engineering isn't exactly robust...

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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2016, 10:04:08 AM »
These aircraft are breaking in midair?

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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2016, 10:42:52 AM »
These aircraft are breaking in midair?
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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2016, 06:12:50 PM »
These aircraft are breaking in midair?

Not necessarily a total airframe failure, but from my time in them, Trikes especially, you don't really have options for controls. If things require a big correction, you don't have the means.

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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2016, 06:29:50 PM »
I saw one of these flying around Panama City a few times.  I thought to myself "That just doesn't look safe".

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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2016, 01:38:13 AM »
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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2016, 04:01:27 AM »
Yes, I would stay away from the swamp boat hang glider conversions, and the home built experimental flying fishing boat. Luckily there are better options for ultralights.




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Re: Local gyrocopter pilot killed
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2016, 09:17:01 AM »
Yes, I would stay away from the swamp boat hang glider conversions, and the home built experimental flying fishing boat. Luckily there are better options for ultralights.





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