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Offline TEShaw

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Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« on: February 07, 2016, 01:27:16 PM »
Skuzzy, Dear Fellow,

Over in that other thread you said that,

"You can spend a lot less, for a laptop. and get a better video card.  For example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA57X2RG0938&cm_re=asus_g751-_-34-232-202-_-Product

Not an endorsement."

And then I was over at Amazon and saw this:

ASUS ROG GL752VW-DH74 17-Inch Gaming Laptop, Discrete GPU GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB VRAM, 16GB DDR4, 1 TB, 128 GB SSD

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B015ZG9964?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Similar price.

Now, computer specs just fly over my head like airplanes.

Does this Amazon one compare favorably to the one you mentioned?

(Looks like my new DSL connect is working with my two week trial. I am so gassed by this I want to buy a new computer to celebrate.)

Thanks.

Regards,

Airman T. E. Shaw

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Re: Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 03:30:52 PM »
Although I'm not the one you're asking, the one from Amazon has a weaker video card. GTX 960M vs. the 970M from Newegg. There's a huge difference between the two.

The other differences are insignificant.

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Re: Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 04:25:01 PM »
Has the memory allocation issue with the 970 been resolved? or inst it really an issue to those who play AH primarily (basically the card only uses 3.5 gig of the 4) and once it hits a certain memory point frame rates drop and it becomes unstable.

Sorry if this is old news both articles were undated
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Re: Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2016, 05:18:28 PM »
Skuzzy, Dear Fellow,

Over in that other thread you said that,

"You can spend a lot less, for a laptop. and get a better video card.  For example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA57X2RG0938&cm_re=asus_g751-_-34-232-202-_-Product

Not an endorsement."

And then I was over at Amazon and saw this:

ASUS ROG GL752VW-DH74 17-Inch Gaming Laptop, Discrete GPU GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB VRAM, 16GB DDR4, 1 TB, 128 GB SSD

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B015ZG9964?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Similar price.

Now, computer specs just fly over my head like airplanes.

Does this Amazon one compare favorably to the one you mentioned?

(Looks like my new DSL connect is working with my two week trial. I am so gassed by this I want to buy a new computer to celebrate.)

Thanks.

Regards,

Airman T. E. Shaw

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Re: Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2016, 10:53:01 AM »
Although I'm not the one you're asking, the one from Amazon has a weaker video card. GTX 960M vs. the 970M from Newegg. There's a huge difference between the two.

The other differences are insignificant.

This.

Has the memory allocation issue with the 970 been resolved? or inst it really an issue to those who play AH primarily (basically the card only uses 3.5 gig of the 4) and once it hits a certain memory point frame rates drop and it becomes unstable.

Sorry if this is old news both articles were undated

It is not an issue, per se.  It was a design choice.  If you keep the 970 at 1920x1080, or less, the memory issue should not come up with 99% of the games in the market.  You really would have to push all the settings to silly proportions to get passed 3.5GB of video RAM when running at 1920x1080 resolutions, or less.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2016, 10:55:23 AM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2016, 12:20:26 PM »
I think I posted it here when the whole 970 "gate" happened, but I actually had to go and find the specific game with the issue and screw around quite a while to get it to be affected by the whole 3.5/4 thing as some had complained.  As Skuzzy said, 99.9999% of the games out there won't be affected, and do NOT be put off by the hay that was made by nVidia's enemies and gaming/tech journalists with time on their hands who labored to make the whole thing much worse than it actually was in practice.  Was there technically a "dishonest" tech description from NVidia - difficult to really say IMO, they certainly made a great card and I don't think they set out to "screw" anyone.  I was very happy with my 2 when I had them, in SLI they smoked a single 980 and ran right up there with a 980ti depending on the nVidia SLI profile/game. 

I've been considering picking up a 960 2nd laptop (I have a 980 MSI right now) just to see how it'll run games including AH3/Beta- only because they can be found for sub 1000$ easily, while the 970s are usually 13 or 1400$, and 1800 at least in CDN money now.  It just seems a little more accessible price wise than the 970 if somebody HAS to have a notebook for travel/work and can only afford a single solution in that 1000$ price range.  Probably tomorrow I'll grab one from the local shop.

As stated the 970 is much more powerful than the 960, but based on 5 year old HTPCs running AH3, I think the 960 will be a great "budget" option with environment and maybe some other things turned down for the future. 

Maybe the new Pascal "budget" GPU in that 960 price range will really be great as well, the rumor is a huge performance jump even in the mid-range cards from both nVidia and AMD are coming in the next quarter or 2.

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Re: Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 12:24:31 PM »
Yes, but the 960M (mobile) is a lot slower than the desktop counterpart.  The 970M would be close to the 960 desktop card in performance, but still a tick slower.
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Re: Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 01:42:06 PM »
I realize that, I'm talking just directly about gaming notebook performance vis a vis the 960 specifically being "good enough".   GPUboss said last year that the 960 desktop was actually faster than the 970m with the majority of the games they tested, I imagine the desktop 960 will be pretty good for the beta still. 

Even the 980m is kinda paltry compared to the desktop although I have no major complaints with mine, even high extreme settings on some games, as the Gsync with the laptop actually works pretty well when FPS drop a bit - one thing regarding this is that if you have the $ and NEED a laptop for gaming, the new 980GTX mobiles perform right up there with the desktops.  Hopefully that will be a trend gaming laptop makers follow with the newer gen of video cards.  Plus it'd be nice to see AMD get into the mobile gaming sector again, after all but abandoning it. 

« Last Edit: February 08, 2016, 01:50:29 PM by Gman »

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Re: Skuzzy, You Said That, But What About This?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2016, 11:25:11 PM »
TEShaw that's a name I have not seen in a long time.