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Offline Hungry

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Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« on: February 17, 2016, 12:18:23 PM »
Always been curious about this in AH, in your opinion do big graphic cards and fast CPU'S help you fight? I don't play the first person multiplayer shooters like a Battlefield 3 or 4 for example anymore but I always thought it made a huge difference there especially with head shots and seeing the target.

I use an AMD Phenom 2 550 Black Edition all fours cores unlocked and oc'd to 3.5, 8 gig ram and a GTX570 vid card on a win 7 machine, most eye candy turned down and I get a solid 60 frames.  But what makes me wonder are two things, my gunnery is worse than awful, just cant see the enemy plane the way I'd like and I think I read in here somewhere someone saying from 10-15k or 15-20k they can see GVS?  I see the ground I don't see GV's until I'm about 3-4 k

Thanks in advance for any feedback, I've had the above machine for quite awhile and thinking of doing a major overhaul, but the fact is its a very serviceable machine especially since I added the Samsung Evo SSD

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 12:31:35 PM »
Personally, my feeling is the single most important thing for practical gunnery is to get your system running at steady 60 fps.  More machine just means you can have more stuff turned on while doing that.

As far as being able to see stuff far away, it's a combination of eyesight and monitor size.  I used to play on a 22" that died, and I switched over to a 27", same resolution.  The difference was night and day.  I went from needing a seeing eye wingman in FSO to sometimes seeing things first out of the squad.

Edit:  Just thought of one other thing-  I think peripherals also gain you quite a bit.  If I ruled the world, the game would ship with a head tracking system, HOTAS and pedals, as I feel those three things massively enhance the game.  Not that there aren't people who can do more with less, I know a few guys that do really well with mouse and keyboard.  I am not one of them though. ;)

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 12:39:26 PM »
Steady FPS is nice and so is a bigger monitor. I could add an accurate joystick to that list.

However a steady Internet connection for both you and your opponent is still the most important factor. You can learn to deal with a spiking stick and you can learn to aim using maximized zoom on a tiny laptop screen but there's no way you could estimate the next warp caused by a poor connection.

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2016, 02:43:38 PM »
Ping and steady connection.  In my opinion.
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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2016, 02:51:41 PM »
Ping and steady connection.  In my opinion.

That would be the most important.
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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2016, 09:10:41 PM »
Thanks for checking in, ping has always been pretty good and with the way I have the game setup I get pretty darn steady frame rates

 
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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2016, 11:46:12 AM »
I am kind of blind at short distances.  hard for me to see planes and forget about gv's I cant see them at all.  my option was to get a bigger monitor and zoom in.  but if the con is down in the trees or the water then forget it I cant see him at all.

my gunnery is bad due to me emptying the guns trying to get to the next zillion bullets fired achievement.  but look at your joystick, if you are having trouble chasing the con because your plane jumps all over the place then check your joystick settings.

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2016, 12:02:14 PM »
Stick, and stick settings are more important than most think, over-correction when shooting against a moving target,trim on hat/wheel.
TrackIR improve SA for many players (but not all).

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2016, 12:29:41 PM »
Good points all round - I've played the game at a steady 45 ping, and the 80 or so ping I have now, 75 during late night, 80 the rest of the time - there is a difference for sure, especially between say 50 and 200 IMO, but you can adjust for it so long as it is a constant/steady ping, which IMO is more important than a "low number", but the low number does help.  It sure does in FPS games, big time.  One thing to be noted - HT has said many times ping has NO bearing on the collision model, and this is 100% verifiable in game as well IMO.

Save makes good points too - accuracy in shooting is the bottom line in killing IMO - all the SA, ACM, etc, to line up a shot, is worthless if you can't MAKE that shot.  A good, as in really good high quality stick, and having it set up with curves which are comfortable for your style is essential.  A good sight is too, although I just use the death dot for 99 percent of my shooting in game.  SA is important for staying alive IMO more than getting kills, but it works both ways, you can't get kills if you're dead, so I guess it's of equal import in some respects.  Being very fast with your thumb hat, or using TiR - I use a combination of both - and constantly, as in every few seconds even when engaged and close to a shooting solution, checking behind you and around you defines good SA IMO.

One other thing which helps me is arm position.  Many have their sticks mounted to HOTAS chairs/desks and whatnot, but I find having my elbow/forearm planted on my gaming desk surface really helps me with steady aiming and shots, as opposed to my elbow and arm floating in the air.  YMMV, this is very subjective, but most who have tried it out in my experience stick with it, I have my arm contacting my desk from about 2 inches forward of my elbow most of the time.

I think any decent PC with a good vid card and CPU will work well in this game, and that the stick is of more importance (rudders too) in terms of actually getting kills hardware wise. 

One last thing - 144hz monitors present a much clearer and..."faster" for lack of a better descriptive word gaming experience, in all games, not just Ah, but I certainly notice the effect here.  TA or IPS, I've tried both, and having 144hz over 60hz/typical rates does make a difference - how it directly translates to "getting kills" is hard to qualify, but ask anyone here who has moved to a 144hz dedicated gaming LCD, and in every case they say it has made a large improvement in their overall experience.  Monitor = PC too, so I would include this as well.

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2016, 01:06:43 PM »
I don't know about that last part. I still get significant input lag with the Gsync systems. Maybe you're not using Gsync, but for me it's a loser.
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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2016, 01:59:50 PM »
Semp and Save

Thanks I have an X52 Saitek setup and although I never used to I am now scaling especially the first 4 bands (nearest the center of the stick position?), sometimes I admit I get excited and practically pop the dot o death from top to bottom of the enemy plan I used to jump right over it, no smooth fine middle point, I'll keep working on it through scaling
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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2016, 02:04:54 PM »

Save makes good points too - accuracy in shooting is the bottom line in killing IMO - all the SA, ACM, etc, to line up a shot, is worthless if you can't MAKE that shot. 

Agreed 100% I've watched quite a few AH you tube vids, Skyr had a shot, plane and simple he was highly accurate, never thought his flying was spectacular but he did have a great shot.

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2016, 07:51:17 PM »
Both of my "good" monitors are Gsync, my Acer 4k and Asus 1440 Swift - I don't use Gsync in AH, so I'm not sure if it would have a negative effect or not.  I do know that 60hz vs 144hz or 120+ is a no brainer in terms of gaming performance/quality. 

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2016, 09:50:00 PM »
lets assume your rig is more than capable of running the software.
lets assume you have a quality connection to game server. ie 60ms +/-, 10GB bandwidth....

No, your rig will not make you a killer. Practice and time in is what makes you a killer. As in all things, some are natural born, most need practice.

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Re: Does your PC help you get kills in AH
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2016, 12:17:44 AM »
Being able to run the game at a good (stable and high) frame rate, at a good resolution like 1920X1080 absolutely will help you in this game. If you have things like trackIR, pedals, HOTAS stick, those will help you too.