The best upgrade I ever did!

[Skuzzy]

I've been running Win10 on two machines for several months now and haven't had a single issue outside of a few older programs that are no longer compatible.  It seems all the catastrophic Win10 events on these forums are yours.  Deductive reasoning therefore tells me Win10 isn't the problem.

I didn't use words too big for you did I?

That is not quite accurate.  Even you said you had problems.  There are thousands of complaints all over the Internet about problems with Windows 10.  Many of them are quite catastrophic.  Files disappearing, programs being removed, crashes and lockups.  It varies with the updates released.

Even Microsoft has admitted to many problems, saying they are working on them.  My favorite problem has been the insider update which broke 90% of the games available for Windows, including ours.  Microsoft acknowledged they broke DirectX, before the day they released the update.

Calenges problems are quite common, if you take a look at the bug reports for Windows 10.  However, not everyone has the same problems.  It seems to be dependent on the hardware and applications installed.

I also think the problems the original poster had with Windows 7 is likely to follow him to Windows 10, in time as any fresh installation of a Windows operating system tends to correct problems created over time.

[Bizman]

I also think the problems the original poster had with Windows 7 is likely to follow him to Windows 10, in time as any fresh installation of a Windows operating system tends to correct problems created over time.

I may be wrong here, but I'm in the belief that the Windows files actually get installed fresh both in upgrading to 10 and in "updating" 7 to itself which is a proven method for fixing corrupted system settings. Thus chances are that the upgrade really fixed something.

However, if there's been something fishy in his Appdata or browser add-ons, the problems may very well resurrect.

And of course a clean install is always the best way to get rid of any bugs and dead weight.

[Skuzzy]

I may be wrong here, but I'm in the belief that the Windows files actually get installed fresh both in upgrading to 10 and in "updating" 7 to itself which is a proven method for fixing corrupted system settings. Thus chances are that the upgrade really fixed something.

However, if there's been something fishy in his Appdata or browser add-ons, the problems may very well resurrect.

And of course a clean install is always the best way to get rid of any bugs and dead weight.

Yes, but there is a very good chance whatever caused the corruption, to begin with, will happen again.  Data corruption does not magically go away when you replace the corrupted file with a good file.  Whatever caused that corruption probably still exists.

In other words, there is a good chance he has masked the problem and not really fixed it.

[Chalenge]

What I find fascinating is that the same people that have taken the role of peripheral device, rather than operator, are the same people that claim their systems are having no issues. I would argue that a game console is not a computer despite having all of the elements that define a 'computer,' because those systems are closed and not open to the same evolving environments that content creators, developers, and researchers are engaged with. In reality though, it is the 'console' systems that are more at risk because those operators are most likely to risk their systems by opening unsolicited emails, visiting infected websites, and otherwise engaging in unwise activities.

That's how someone like myself that uses simple creation-type programs can get 'hit' by an update by an official source and then somehow its my fault.

@baudeagle: No, you're incapable of that.

[TequilaChaser]

Skuzzy posted this freeware tool for disabling the update to Windows10 icon & screen pop-up

There is a tool GWX Control Panel url link: -->(http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html) you can install which should help you take control of your computer again.  All reviews/remarks about this program seem to indicate it is safe to install.  For those of you who do not want to delve into the guts of Windows to stop the nagware, this could be a safe alternative.

I have used it on 3 computers, it not only disables the windows 10 upgrade pop-up, it removes any and all windows 10 related kbxxxxx files, along with any other windows 10 needed or related files or updates.....

I recommend it, it offers a lot of options, besides just the win10 upgrade icon/popup box

TC

[Dragon Tamer]

What I find fascinating is that the same people that have taken the role of peripheral device, rather than operator, are the same people that claim their systems are having no issues. I would argue that a game console is not a computer despite having all of the elements that define a 'computer,' because those systems are closed and not open to the same evolving environments that content creators, developers, and researchers are engaged with. In reality though, it is the 'console' systems that are more at risk because those operators are most likely to risk their systems by opening unsolicited emails, visiting infected websites, and otherwise engaging in unwise activities.

That's how someone like myself that uses simple creation-type programs can get 'hit' by an update by an official source and then somehow its my fault.

@baudeagle: No, you're incapable of that.

But did you try turning it off and back on?

[RagingPineapple]

     Wasn't there also very negative things being said about Windows 7 when it first came out, and what operating system are all of you guys using? I think that given time, the walls in your brains will fall down, you will succumb to Windows 10, realize how much better it operates, and then complain about Windows 11.

[darkzking]

That is not quite accurate.  Even you said you had problems.  There are thousands of complaints all over the Internet about problems with Windows 10.  Many of them are quite catastrophic.  Files disappearing, programs being removed, crashes and lockups.  It varies with the updates released.

Even Microsoft has admitted to many problems, saying they are working on them.  My favorite problem has been the insider update which broke 90% of the games available for Windows, including ours.  Microsoft acknowledged they broke DirectX, before the day they released the update.

Calenges problems are quite common, if you take a look at the bug reports for Windows 10.  However, not everyone has the same problems.  It seems to be dependent on the hardware and applications installed.

I also think the problems the original poster had with Windows 7 is likely to follow him to Windows 10, in time as any fresh installation of a Windows operating system tends to correct problems created over time.

[Chalenge]

     Wasn't there also very negative things being said about Windows 7 when it first came out, and what operating system are all of you guys using? I think that given time, the walls in your brains will fall down, you will succumb to Windows 10, realize how much better it operates, and then complain about Windows 11.

There will never be a Windows 11, which is why I can say what I did about it only being a matter of time.

[Bizman]

     Wasn't there also very negative things being said about Windows 7 when it first came out, and what operating system are all of you guys using? I think that given time, the walls in your brains will fall down, you will succumb to Windows 10, realize how much better it operates, and then complain about Windows 11.

Every flavour of Windows has had major issues during the first couple of years until the first Service Pack has been released and patched. Even the less successful versions like Vista matured to somewhat stable with the SP's.

However, as Chalenge said, 10 will probably be the last Windows which means it'll never reach maturity. It'll be a constant work in progress, kind of a public Beta without any official Beta label on it. New features will be installed for testing without warning, gained stability will be sacrificed whenever the designers want some novelty be largely tested by the users. Only the Enterprise users can postpone updates to allow Home users do the dirty job as guinea pigs.

[Skuzzy]

     Wasn't there also very negative things being said about Windows 7 when it first came out, and what operating system are all of you guys using? I think that given time, the walls in your brains will fall down, you will succumb to Windows 10, realize how much better it operates, and then complain about Windows 11.

Yes, and there were serious problems with Windows 7 when it was introduced.  There are still problems with Windows 7, but not as many as with Windows 10.

One of the many issues I have with Windows 10 is the inability to block updates.  Microsoft has a proven track record of breaking things with updates and taking up to weeks to correct it.  There have a been a few updates which actually bricked computers.

With Windows 7, you can wait and see what happens with an update before deciding to do it.  You can also ignore the update if it is something which could impact the way you use your computer.

I also see nothing in Windows 10 which would make what I do with my computer any better.  Actually, it would impede the work I have to do.  So for me, there is no reason to upgrade and risk the stability problems which do plague Windows 10, right now.

Today, there are people who have no problems with Windows 10, but you will never know how long that will last and that is very disconcerting to many people.

[Chalenge]

I fully expect that when 2020 arrives and support for Windows 7 is dropped that the "10" will be dropped and the "new Windows will be released without a version number. People will rush to get the "new version" and then discover all Microsoft did was change the color of lipstick on the pig.

[RagingPineapple]

     Lol, sounds like you guys have always hated Microsoft Windows. Now this might be an insane idea, but might I suggest you try a different operating system? I found this list on Wikipedia that might be useful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems

[Skuzzy]

     Lol, sounds like you guys have always hated Microsoft Windows. Now this might be an insane idea, but might I suggest you try a different operating system? I found this list on Wikipedia that might be useful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems

I am not seeing any type of emotional responses here, except from you.  Nothing said here has not been true and is quite easily confirmed as well. 

Just because a fact is not in favor of a choice does not make any less of a fact.

Personally, I am very pragmatic about my computer systems and the software running on them.  I am not a bleeding edge enthusiast and I do not blindly allow software to be installed on my computer without understanding the inherent risks associated with it.  It is about as far from an emotional decision as you can get.

[RagingPineapple]

     Skuzzy, let us not forget the original topic on this thread. Latrobe fixed his computer by upgrading to Windows 10. Latrobe's not a developer, nor is he an IT expert, but instead uses his computer for gaming and his own personal enjoyment. Windows 10 has worked perfectly for him because he does not fear change or hold any conspiracy theories about windows probing his computer. You and Challenge have managed to take this thread and twist it into the "bellyache about Windows" and the "I hate Windows" thread rather than complementing or congratulating Latrobe on his now working computer.
     On that note, I would like to redirect this thread by saying, "Awesome that Windows 10 worked for you Latrobe!"