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Offline Randy1

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Perk Tank?
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2016, 12:52:03 PM »
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 02:48:07 PM »
LOL AckAck, that's the last game I drove a GV in !


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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2016, 04:55:58 PM »
Randy that's exactly what I need to survive weekend traffic in lower Alabama.
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 07:04:04 AM »
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Good one.  I remember playing that game.  For the life of me I cannot remember the name of the game.

Randy that's exactly what I need to survive weekend traffic in lower Alabama.

Did y'all do okay in the storms there?

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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 08:45:33 AM »
Did y'all do okay in the storms there?

Lots of lightning. Lots of wind. One doormat blew off the porch is about all.
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 09:36:19 AM »


It was the first game I ever bought for my Atari - there was an Arcade version as well.
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 09:47:22 AM »
Its a bad time to be a tank right now. If that tank, or any tank for that matter, gets within a couple kilometers of an infantryman with a fire-and-forget atgm it's dead.

It used to be that atgms require a lot of training and only the rare atgm units deployed them. Now it is a hand fired infantry weapon at the squad level.

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In one short engagement, a platoon of U.S. special forces soldiers equipped with Javelins destroyed two T-55 tanks, eight armored personnel carriers, and four troop trucks

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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2016, 09:57:42 AM »
I thought dr7 already had this tank...  :rofl
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2016, 05:50:25 PM »
Its a bad time to be a tank right now. If that tank, or any tank for that matter, gets within a couple kilometers of an infantryman with a fire-and-forget atgm it's dead.

It used to be that atgms require a lot of training and only the rare atgm units deployed them. Now it is a hand fired infantry weapon at the squad level.

And that was over a decade ago.

Apparently you haven't see the Merkava's self defense system in action.  Its basically a radar guided shotgun.  I've seen videos of it destroying incoming RPGs in combat.  The Abrams has a similar system in development.

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The Merkava Mk 4m Windbreaker is a Merkava Mk IV equipped with the Trophy active protection system (APS) designated "Meil Ruach" (Hebrew: מעיל רוח‎; "Windbreaker" or "Wind Coat"). The system was operational by the end of 2007. The serial production of Merkava Mk 4m tanks started in 2009 and the first whole brigade of Merkava Mk 4m tanks was declared operational in 2011. The Trophy APS successfully intercepted RPG rounds and anti-tank guided missiles, including the 9M133 Kornet, fired by Hamas before and during Operation Protective Edge in 2014.
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2016, 08:44:14 AM »
Yes I knew that. Not just Israeli tanks have aps.
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2016, 09:32:21 AM »
There are several other ways to protect a tank, both passive and active. Multi spectral camouflage, aerosol sprays, laser jammers etc. But you can never make a indestructible tank and tank ops need to be coordinated with infantry, air etc to decrease vulnerability.

Training, tactic and mutual support between different weapon systems are the key.
Without it you end up like this:
Kornet ATGM vs Saudi M1A2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBwKYvINTds

But its nothing new, The tank was expected to loose the "battle" against ATGM:s back in the 70s but the tanks are still here..
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2016, 01:40:04 PM »
That might have been a monkey model abrams for export. The newer ATGMs like the javelin and it's successors make the kornet look obsolete.
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2016, 02:24:29 PM »
Saudis have the "standard" M1A2, unlike some other countries that have downgraded versions.

Edit: Kornet, although old, is a very potent missile and a serious threat to any tank, 1000-1300 mm penetration is a lot. 
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Re: Perk Tank?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2016, 02:55:14 PM »
Penetration isn't the issue, it's a weapons platoon or atgm section weapon, not intended or practical to be supplied to every rifle squad. It's not fire-and-forget and it's laser guided.

How do you know it was a Saudi m1a2?
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