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Offline BuckShot

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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2016, 08:58:01 PM »
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2016, 10:33:10 PM »
Rudder use is critical in rolling the Emil

Very true.
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2016, 08:25:39 AM »
109 is not one of them birds where the rudder makes the plane though...don't think it's really that important seeing that the 109 will roll over just with torque and cutting throttle makes it roll right fine.
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2016, 10:32:49 AM »
Um... Rudder control is perhaps the 109's best advantage.



And you see this design philosophy in most German fighters from WWI onward.
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2016, 10:42:57 AM »
I mean just look at this Fokker. There is literally no fixed vert stab at all! just a rudder.




You see this design in the 109 as well with its extremely small fixed stab surface and a huge rudder.

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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2016, 01:02:03 PM »
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2016, 04:17:34 PM »
Um... Rudder control is perhaps the 109's best advantage.



And you see this design philosophy in most German fighters from WWI onward.
You may be right for Real life but you'd be wrong in the MA, it's really not anything special compared to some of the real rudder monsters....it's ability in the vert comes from it's power and light wieght....don't even need to use rudder at top of a climb to bring it over the top....just chop throttle or hit WEP....engine will do all the work, you just have to quide it.

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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2016, 04:52:36 PM »
Last year, why?
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2016, 12:23:24 PM »
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2016, 12:13:32 PM »
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Any of the DB 605 powered 109s really.

Which are those please?
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2016, 12:30:57 PM »
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2016, 12:39:00 PM »
He said "rate"...

Although, I have noticed that my 109 rolls very quickly once I lose one of those pesky wings.
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2016, 07:22:48 AM »
He said "rate"...

Although, I have noticed that my 109 rolls very quickly once I lose one of those pesky wings.

I know, why are people talking about 109s and F4Us lol.


The best roll rate planes are the 190s (all of them) the Ki84s and 43, and the spit16. Using the roll rate to change the direction of a loop or climb is very beneficial. In a 190 where the barrel roll is less effective, you have to use the snap roll in the vertical to gain angles. This works a lot better in planes like the Ki84, spit16, and 190D, than the 109s or F4U because the snap roll can change the planes direction much more quickly without giving up E. This can cause planes with slower roll rates to lose E much more quickly ln a verticle situation.
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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2016, 10:24:46 PM »
I16 has a fun roll rate and rudder. A week or two ago I stomp on the rudder to evade some vulcher, damn thing spun around on its axis next minute I'm sorta flying backwards.

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Re: Top Roll-Rate Planes
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2016, 03:34:01 PM »
Best roll rate is with out doubt AHII B-17s flying off the map.  :bolt:

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