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Offline MADe

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OPERA
« on: March 12, 2016, 10:46:58 PM »
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Re: OPERA
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2016, 11:50:48 PM »
I switched to Brave a while ago.
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Re: OPERA
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 04:13:47 AM »
Can your sort post this geek stuff in the software section please?
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 04:37:48 AM »
The idea of a built-in ad blocker instead of third party plugins is appealing. One might think that should eliminate potential issues in browser version updates. No more messages like "Wait until <Browser> has checked compatibility with existing add-ons.", not to mention the "Some add-ons have been disabled until they get updated."
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2016, 11:19:07 AM »
Ad blockers are detrimental to the free internet. If ad blockers get too much proliferation most of the internet we enjoy today will be behind paywalls in the future.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2016, 12:26:02 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on March 13, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
Ad blockers are detrimental to the free internet. If ad blockers get too much proliferation most of the internet we enjoy today will be behind paywalls in the future.

That may be true, but on the other hand: Among the first ads on YouTube were the "Your computer is very slow/at risk, click here" ads looking like a Windows error message.  Countless people called me for advice because they got scared. If ad blockers make advertisers reduce that kind of marketing it's not a bad thing, IMO. I say this despite the fact that people falling for such crapware pay my bills.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2016, 01:27:05 PM »
OPERA?
My favourite one is probably Das Rheingold by Richard Wagner. Recently I saw quite a nice production of Verdi's Rigoletto in Gelsenkirchen as well.  :old:
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Re: OPERA
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2016, 05:25:59 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on March 13, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
Ad blockers are detrimental to the free internet. If ad blockers get too much proliferation most of the internet we enjoy today will be behind paywalls in the future.

yes and no

there are legitimate companies who need exposure, advertising does this. but there is also a proliferation of bs and fraud ads that something needs to be done. stop the telemetricing, selling my meta data without my permission, yada yada.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2016, 06:25:56 PM »
It's not about companies needing exposure, legitimate or otherwise. It's about all the free content available on the web now that is funded by ads on their sites. If ad-blocking becomes near-universal all this content will have to be funded by other means, or we will simply lose them.
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Re: OPERA
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2016, 11:32:23 AM »
So, advertising products that may ruin your computer is ok as long as the ads pay the site's bills.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2016, 01:28:55 PM »
advertising was for a time when billboards and newspaper ads were the only avenue to the public at large. Afterall not an economy in the world is floated by the 1%'ers.

Todays world is different. Quality product is sold by word of mouth. Junk is sold by advertising. Modern communications have changed the need, and therefore the approach to selling products. I should be allowed to turn off or disable anything that disrupts what I pay for, my bandwidth.

If things like FAcebook want to go there, fine, they provide a free service soo.......................but I do not use such services, I should not be attacked by ads or have my emails inundated with crap I did not ask for. No different than robo calling or telemarketers. Or have my pc infected by telemetrics or malware.
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Re: OPERA
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2016, 01:46:24 PM »
Shouldn't the free market decide?
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Re: OPERA
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2016, 01:56:31 PM »
Quote from: Bizman on March 14, 2016, 11:32:23 AM
So, advertising products that may ruin your computer is ok as long as the ads pay the site's bills.

I'm generally against protecting people from their own ignorance and stupidity.
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Re: OPERA
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2016, 02:42:51 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on March 14, 2016, 01:56:31 PM
I'm generally against protecting people from their own ignorance and stupidity.

I generally dislike stupidity based on deliberate ignorance. However, the most dangerous ads are created by skillful masters and aimed against ordinary people, the ones who in fact have the least to fear for but who worry the most. It's like an H-bomb against medieval peasants.

Can your parents/grandparents tell a fake Windows warning from a real one? If not, are they stupid and ignorant? If they are, whose responsibility is it to help them?
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Re: OPERA
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2016, 04:47:18 PM »
<In my best Bugs Bunny voice...which is not bad, if I do say so> "Neah, what's Opera, Doc?" (ah, the classics!) :P
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