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Cry Babies!
« on: March 18, 2016, 10:45:00 PM »
First, AH3 is coming! If your computer cant handle it, either upgrade your computer of stop playing. Those are your choices IF you haven't asked for help in tweaking the computer you DO have.

Post your DXDiag (top third is usually enough), many guys here are happy to look at it and suggest ways to adjust  the MANY settings HTC has put in AH3 beta to get a good game experience.

Coming in here or the game and just crying about how bad the new version sucks isn't going to help you or anyone else. Ask for help.

If it turns out your computer cant handle the new game and you just cant afford to upgrade or don't want to, Im sorry for you but your crying about it isn't going to stop the new version from coming out. 

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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2016, 11:27:59 PM »
I understand what you're saying, I just hope we don't lose too many people to the switch. Numbers are too low as it is, and I doubt most of us have high-end gaming rigs or play the newestlatest games. Hopefully we'll gain some new players with the improved game, but for them to want to stick around there'll have to be enough people already in the arena to make it fun when they log on for their 2 weeks.

I just bit the bullet and ordered a new video card and power supply, but I'm probably a little more committed to this game than average. OTOH it wasn't much more than a year's subscription fees and I'm hoping this rig is good for a few more years.

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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2016, 12:05:50 AM »
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2016, 01:38:24 AM »
If people tried the beta then they would know how their system would handle it.
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2016, 02:05:23 AM »
If people tried the beta then they would know how their system would handle it.

Certainly a good idea. I did and mine won't. The latest patch has my frame rate at 15 with everything at the absolute minimum - hence the upgrade. I suspect plenty of folks are in the same boat because the current version relies more on the processor and less on the video card, so you can get by with a lower-end card like I've been doing.

My impression of the player base is that there are a lot more hardcore WW2 aviation buffs than hardcore gamers. Pretty much all the other games I play are older or fairly obscure strategy games that don't need a gaming rig to run.

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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2016, 02:38:54 AM »
You might want to check this out before you spend any money:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,378254.0.html

It seems that there is an issue with the latest patch, causing the game to use more video memory than it should.
Remember this is a beta and there will be issues.

Also, you don't have to have a high end gaming rig to run AHIII. I'm running an eight year old  E8400 4GB ddr2 system. I upgraded to win7 64bit, and put a used nvidia gtx 480 1.5GB ddr5 in last summer. It plays AHIII just fine and the game looks very nice.

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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2016, 05:52:31 AM »
My machine that has run AH2 for the last 6 years without an upgrade runs the beta fine with half the settings off @ 4096 textures.  Infact where this version uses more of the video card it seems better than AHII. 

2gb video card get 60 FPS in the air and it dips a little when low over the town / field but still more than playable.   

If it starts to suffer in battle with lots of stuff going on then hey I've only had 3 years notice  :t (and probably another 6 months) to save up enough to spend a minimal amount rebuilding this tower.    :banana:
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2016, 09:35:31 AM »
Hey!  Thanks for the... uhm help or uhh insult or something like that!  Ya, that's it!  Woopee!   :rock
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 10:16:10 AM »
AH2 is very gracious in the sense that you can have a pretty poor system and still play the game without a hindrance (even on the lowest settings). Can't play on single core processors and onboard graphics forever.
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2016, 10:21:24 AM »
At first there definitely was a problem some where but it seems HTC found the problem that was causing a lot of people to lose frames, it runs pretty smooth for me now. Do appreciate that HTC looked into that like they did, had me worried.
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2016, 10:39:49 AM »
I understand what you're saying, I just hope we don't lose too many people to the switch. Numbers are too low as it is, and I doubt most of us have high-end gaming rigs or play the newestlatest games. Hopefully we'll gain some new players with the improved game, but for them to want to stick around there'll have to be enough people already in the arena to make it fun when they log on for their 2 weeks.

I just bit the bullet and ordered a new video card and power supply, but I'm probably a little more committed to this game than average. OTOH it wasn't much more than a year's subscription fees and I'm hoping this rig is good for a few more years.

I hope that first off, people don't panic when they try to beta. Second I hope they ASK for some help in tweaking their system. And third, if they can afford it and need to, upgrade their system. I really would hate to see anyone leave the game due to any reason. I hope that HTC runs an aggressive ad campaign and brings in a large group of new/old players to the new version.

The good news is that computers are NOT growing in leaps and bounds any more. Back in the "old days" it seemed like we were upgrading every year. Now we can run the same one for 3-5 years for the most part. So anyone spending money on a good rig (not some cheapo Walmart special) can run that piece for a good number of years.

If people tried the beta then they would know how their system would handle it.

Not only tried it, but asked about what can be done to make it the best gaming experience on their equipment. HTC has loaded a lot of adjustablity into the game but has little documentation at this time as how to tweak them.

At first there definitely was a problem some where but it seems HTC found the problem that was causing a lot of people to lose frames, it runs pretty smooth for me now. Do appreciate that HTC looked into that like they did, had me worried.

I think he is talking about this....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,378254.0.html

It seems in the newest version there is a memory leak/issue that is causing issues with using double the memory with cards with less than 2 GB of memory.

Hey!  Thanks for the... uhm help or uhh insult or something like that!  Ya, that's it!  Woopee!   :rock

Not trying to insult people, but there are those that are on the boards and in the game that are crying about "Im not upgrading my computer just for some game!". The point is HTC isnt going to stop the new version for those players. If your not going to upgrade your computer for a game then you have made your decision. Say your good-byes, wish everyone well and leave. 

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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2016, 10:43:12 AM »
We have been through all this before.  :old:
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2016, 10:49:43 AM »
Ya just gotta do what ya gotta do. Over the years the game has had bumps in improvement. I had an old P4 rig that I added memory to, it was the last of the kickass P4 mobos that had an AGP slot. I had the last of the Mohicans 1gb AGP video card. Overclocked the thing as much as I could. Eventually it couldn't keep up.

I finally broke down and put together a new rig in, think it was 2011 or 12. Built it myself and I highly recommend that. If you can do a Google search and run a Phillips screwdriver you can build a PC. It'll save you a TON of bucks. I future proofed it enough to keep me on the curve for a while. It runs AH3 fine even with lots of stuff on at full res. Even better with lower res textures and things turned down.

I'm probably a new video card from having everything maxed out. So a relatively small investment now to keep me rolling for the foreseeable future.

The game can't stay behind the times forever. That'll lose us players for sure. Eventually we all have to keep up. I'm sure some players won't be able to plunk down the cash for a new rig and I get that. I didn't either. Kids in college is a friggin killer! I bought a piece here and there when a good deal came around and finally had enough stuff. I recycled what I could from my old rig. One thing was a nice fatality sound card with a front panel I got off eBay cheap.

The good news is components aren't making a frigging quantum leap in performance every 6 months like they were 10 years ago. So the base components should keep you going for a while. This version is WAY more dependant on the video card than the CPU  which is opposite the current version. It seems the video cards are the only things making large strides. So buy that last. Do your homework, buy what ya can when ya can. Ya just gotta figure you're not gonna be able to run not only AH3 but any modern 3D game running a PC from the 90s. That is what that is.

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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2016, 10:56:14 AM »
The good news is that computers are NOT growing in leaps and bounds any more. Back in the "old days" it seemed like we were upgrading every year. Now we can run the same one for 3-5 years for the most part. So anyone spending money on a good rig (not some cheapo Walmart special) can run that piece for a good number of years.

Not only that, but a decent tower can be had/build for ~$600 or less.

As for upgrade paths, AMD is pretty steady with their sockets, whereas Intel couldn't make up their mind as to which socket to stick with for a while there.
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2016, 10:59:19 AM »
My system is nothing fancy and it runs the Beta pretty good. I built it myself and it cost under 1000 US dollars.

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