Technical question about shooting

[JOACH1M]

99.9% ?

Must be the .1% that realizes IF you even pull that move off I'm just going to climb and pick you to death with my energy advantage. That is only if I don't blast you trying to pull it off first.

[nrshida]

Challenge isn't talking about any fancy departure manoeuvres with his 99.9% / 100% claim Jo, he's talking about roping people in a superior energy-retaining aircraft. I've seen the video which was hastily removed the last time this was discussed. Unless he's developed a new technique and recycled the same name, which is possible but somehow I think the simpler explanation is more likely 

[Kingpin]

cobra roll

While the "Cobra Roll" is a personal favorite, made by 99.9% of top Japanese restaurants and enjoyed by 100% of diners... how is a sushi dish on topic in this discussion?  Wouldn't the O'Club be a better place to start a thread on how to perform a double edamame, followed by ebi tempura and a split rainbow roll, all while staying out of your opponent's bento box?

I think we should stick to discussing WWII ACM, gunnery, and AH game-play tips in the Training Forum.

But that's just my opinion...

 

[LCADolby]

 


  Kingpin

[bustr]

99.9% ?

Must be the .1% that realizes IF you even pull that move off I'm just going to climb and pick you to death with my energy advantage. That is only if I don't blast you trying to pull it off first.

From the guy who pulls a tumbling drop out of the fight.......

[JOACH1M]

From the guy who pulls a tumbling drop out of the fight.......

That would be a stall

[Puma44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugachev%27s_Cobra

- oldman

Watch it now, Oldman.  Realism might get someone confused.   . 

[Ack-Ack]

This is also why the cobra roll is considered to be an 'advanced' maneuver. The whole point of the maneuver is to 'force' your opponent into a stall, while simultaneously avoiding any chance that he might have of hitting you. The advanced part of the maneuver is knowing precisely when his aircraft has lost its ability to influence his nose, and it is then that the target fighter offers a nice juicy target that is coincidently turning into position above the shooters nose. When the shooter pulls for the shot his airplane becomes a falling leaf and an easy target for the energy fighter that is now on top and behind.

99.9% of the "top" sticks in this game fall for this 100% of the time, so once you learn it you can kill each and every one of them with ease.

The proper name for the maneuver is "Cobra Turn", which is a variation of "Pugachev's Cobra".  Both maneuvers are useless in combat and will 99.99% of the time result in the death of the pilot trying such a maneuver.  It's a last ditch desperation move that if you don't pull it off leaves you without E and a nice slow stalled out target.  It's also very easy to counter.

[TequilaChaser]

for the life of me, I am sure Ack-Ack has been nominated to train since 1996...... in other sim's included.........

maybe someone will take notice, if they see this ( unless ack-ack knows, which I'm sure he does know what it entails, and decides better not)....... I have no more nominations to give, I have retired...

TC

[bustr]

And then we have all watched how something sudden and absolutely unexpected will often save your kester in this simm because it is not the real world. An example is the Krup tumble because you only see it about twice a year in the MA anymore. If it were used almost every time you entered a furball, it's surprise effect would be gone, and guys would be waiting for it to happen along with talking about how to account for it as an SOP part of discussing ACM in our game.

[Owlblink]

Howdy

yeah, "Party Trick" moves are cool and fun to do once in a while for sharts and giggles (and once in a while give you a kill) but they are usually a last ditch move and show a failure of SA for one and being out flown. Some people have a weird sense of karma and can pull those moves off at a descent rate and everyone is welcome to have fun and try them out but please do realize that it is better to learn to improve your SA and see the big picture, master your E retention and learn when to spend it, learn to fly crisper and cleaner, set up your shots, learn how other planes tend to behave when doing the same, and to have a good attitude when you do get shot down to learn from it. Again, no disrespect to anyones flight style, what works for you works for you, but it is better to teach proper techniques and the general physics involved with airplane combat and flight to give pilots the insight on WHY something may work on occasion and how to outfly others who are missing that knowledge.

[nickel5]

I use the top of the tail section on the AR234 to aim and stear the plane in the direction I want to fire my shots, even in a dog fight and at the top of a stall! ==<--O--O-->==

[bustr]

I stay away from the south end of 234's because of you Nickel. Now I HO or 90 degree lead shoot them. Hitech should just make the rear view on the periscope a key view.

[nickel5]

I stay away from the south end of 234's because of you Nickel. Now I HO or 90 degree lead shoot them. Hitech should just make the rear view on the periscope a key view.

Lol no worries anymore bustr! Been gone for 8 months now and the AR234 of Doom has been grounded and the out look for a return any time soon looks dimmer and dimmer as time goes on and real life has me busy with 3 grandkids and keeping up with our growing family. Maybe when the grandkids get older I can start a squad and teach them the game .

==<--O--O-->==

[JimmyD3]

Lol no worries anymore bustr! Been gone for 8 months now and the AR234 of Doom has been grounded and the out look for a return any time soon looks dimmer and dimmer as time goes on and real life has me busy with 3 grandkids and keeping up with our growing family. Maybe when the grandkids get older I can start a squad and teach them the game .

==<--O--O-->==

Good to hear from you Nickle5, and happy to hear you are enjoying the "grandpa" time, those grand kids are a blessing in our old age, and give us purpose in latter years. Enjoy them while you can, they grow like weeds. May you have many more.