Author Topic: AH3 Vs AH2  (Read 10978 times)

Offline bustr

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12436
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2016, 05:19:28 PM »
Traveler,

If you go live with AHIII, that is probably the most you can do to help your hold outs to decide on migrating. We still need your cranky arse along with theirs to shoot at. And at least for the first 3 months of AH3, your observations or complaints will be in good company with the rest of ours.

Most of these guys fighting with you in this post, would probably rather fight with you in the MA instead of banging keys with no kill landed message for their efforts.
bustr - POTW 1st Wing


This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

Offline BiPoLaR

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4132
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2016, 10:08:29 PM »
I want to log into the forums one day and not see one negative post. That would be a good thing.
R.I.P. T.E.Moore (Dad) 9-9-45 - 7-16-10.
R.I.P. Wes Poss  (Best Friend) 11-14-75 - 5-2-14

Offline guncrasher

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17360
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2016, 10:54:49 PM »
I want to log into the forums one day and not see one negative post. That would be a good thing.

I would love to see one negative post that is not based on a lie.


semp
you dont want me to ho, dont point your plane at me.

Offline zack1234

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13213
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2016, 04:44:29 AM »
I want to log into the forums one day and not see one negative post. That would be a good thing.

I love you in a manly way only  :old:
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
The GFC
Pipz lived in the Wilderness near Ontario

Offline Traveler

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3148
      • 113th Lucky Strikes
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #64 on: April 29, 2016, 08:17:08 AM »
I want to log into the forums one day and not see one negative post. That would be a good thing.
I would love to see one negative post that is not based on a lie.
semp
First  and foremost please re-read my original post.   It wasn’t a whine and definitely not a lie gunchrasher. 

Saturday night during prime time,  I joined up with my squad only to discover that the LWA was far from it's normal numbers for prime time on a Saturday night.  During the evening I noticed text messages from CM's running an event in AH3 drawing even more people away from AH2.  That left the subscriber base still in AH2 at a lose for numbers.   At one point less than 150 players and of course on a large map.  My squad logged early that night.  I got e-mails from more squad members that they will not be flying any more, our squad numbers have declined from a high of 20 to a new low of 3.
I made an observation of what actually was taking place.  With such low numbers in the LWA I didn’t think it was a good idea for the CM’s from AH3 to be drawing more people away from the game play in AH2.   I’d expect HTC to try to provide an enjoyable environment of game play for the paying customers until such time as AH3 becomes the revenue source. 
Traveler
Executive Officer
113th LUcky Strikes
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/113th_Lucky_Strikes

Offline LCADolby

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7312
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2016, 08:33:19 AM »

You may enjoy playing the game a certain way and for you all is good. However many of us have seen the type of play we like disappear. Dolby and Snuggie have far fewer fight than they have before, heck even Bruv only lands 2 or 3 kills now adays.
:cry
JG5 "Eismeer"
YouTube+Twitch - 20Dolby10


"BE a man and shoot me in the back" - pez

Offline Delirium

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7276
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2016, 09:23:22 AM »
With such low numbers in the LWA I didn’t think it was a good idea for the CM’s from AH3 to be drawing more people away from the game play in AH2.   

With all due respect, with that logic you might as well say, "Since the MA is what draws in the consistent numbers, there should be no scenario or FSO events to potentially decrease those numbers."

Delirium
80th "Headhunters"
Retired AH Trainer (but still teach the P38 selectively)

I found an air leak in my inflatable sheep and plugged the hole! Honest!

Offline -ammo-

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5124
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #67 on: April 29, 2016, 10:41:11 AM »
Yeah.  Those twelve guys in there really would've made a huge difference in the MA.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good doomsaying screed.  :aok

Wiley.

Perfect response, even with a bit of sarcasm.  If you haven't tried AH3 - you should.  It's an awesome product. 
Commanding Officer, 56 Fighter Group
Retired USAF - 1988 - 2011

Offline Bizman

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9605
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #68 on: April 29, 2016, 11:01:51 AM »
That's so Deja Vu. Meanwhile, back in 2003: AH1 vs. AH2
Quote from: BaldEagl, applies to myself, too
I've got an older system by today's standards that still runs the game well by my standards.

Kotisivuni

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23888
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #69 on: April 29, 2016, 11:35:45 AM »
"Since the MA is what draws in the consistent numbers, there should be no scenario or FSO events to potentially decrease those numbers."

Splendid idea  :old:
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

Offline bustr

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12436
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #70 on: April 29, 2016, 11:51:25 AM »
First  and foremost please re-read my original post.   It wasn’t a whine and definitely not a lie gunchrasher. 
I made an observation of what actually was taking place.  With such low numbers in the LWA I didn’t think it was a good idea for the CM’s from AH3 to be drawing more people away from the game play in AH2.   I’d expect HTC to try to provide an enjoyable environment of game play for the paying customers until such time as AH3 becomes the revenue source.

Traveler this is a Catch22 that the CM's probably are not looking at from your perspective. You want those 12 or so players back in the AH2 MA to fulfill your expectations, and they are helping Hitech per his request of everyone who wants to test the beta for bugs. And a large organized regular evening in the beta arenas is going to find bugs faster than players by themselves alone during the day not really knowing what to do or wanting to stay in there very long alone.

If you want to rake someone over the coals, Hitech asked "all of us" to test the beta arenas for "him" to help get AH3 live sooner than later. So who do you want to start with:

Hitech
Skuzzy
bustr
Chalenge
GMAN
Condor
Junky
CM Staff
AvA Staff
About 30 other players names I cannot remember helping report bugs while GVing and furballing ........

Is it still OK with you that we have all of the other weekly AH2 events that steal up to 100 AH2 MA players away on some nights? And what about all those guys who no longer up planes and just GV. AH3 live we will never see them again because of the trees and how good AH3 looks from those trees.

Instead of starting this post why didn't you just wishlist this?

Dear Hitech,

I wish you would stop using paying customers as bug testers for your new product and hire professional testers. You are impacting my limited game play time as a paying customer with them not in the AH2 arenas for me to shoot at.
bustr - POTW 1st Wing


This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

Offline Traveler

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3148
      • 113th Lucky Strikes
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2016, 12:50:26 PM »
With all due respect, with that logic you might as well say, "Since the MA is what draws in the consistent numbers, there should be no scenario or FSO events to potentially decrease those numbers."

No those are both revenue producing arenas and FSO as I remember takes place after prime time on the east cost and is a Friday night event.  What I said was that I didn't think it was a good idea on Saturday Evening Prime time to be drawing numbers away from the LWA / MA when the numbers are already very low to support an event in AH3. Please don't attribute your words or logic as mine.
Traveler
Executive Officer
113th LUcky Strikes
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/113th_Lucky_Strikes

Offline MADe

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1117
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2016, 01:32:35 PM »
I perused a couple of pages........

Sorry to see so many thinking that 3 is gonna strain there pc's to the point of death. I do not see it this way folks. Money's always tight, but stuff is cheaper than ever.
Video card with 2GB of vram will do the job, make no mistakes. Not a major wallet breaker.

As far as game play whines, complaints, observations.
War, real war, you are going to
VULCH
HORDE
SNEAK
SPY
WAIT for ADVANTAGE
CHUTE Shoot
Do whatever it takes to win and stay alive.

This is war, why would anyone expect it to be different in a WAR Simulator.

I would suggest that time would be better spent grabbing up your relatives, your friends, your work mates and forming a squad than trying to convince already paying customers how to spend their dimes.

Its a shame Traveler could lose some of his joy but I fear peeps are making decisions based on incomplete info. If you want the shift to be a true obstacle, it will be. Wait for the path to become clear and who knows, where theres a will.......................
 :salute
ASROCK X99 Taichi, INTEL i7 6850@4.5GHz, GIGABYTE GTX 1070G1, Kingston HyperX 3000MHz DDR4, OCZ 256GB RD400, Seasonic 750W PSU, SONY BRAVIA 48W600B, Windows 10 Pro /64

Offline Traveler

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3148
      • 113th Lucky Strikes
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #73 on: April 29, 2016, 02:05:27 PM »
Traveler this is a Catch22 that the CM's probably are not looking at from your perspective. You want those 12 or so players back in the AH2 MA to fulfill your expectations, and they are helping Hitech per his request of everyone who wants to test the beta for bugs. And a large organized regular evening in the beta arenas is going to find bugs faster than players by themselves alone during the day not really knowing what to do or wanting to stay in there very long alone.

If you want to rake someone over the coals, Hitech asked "all of us" to test the beta arenas for "him" to help get AH3 live sooner than later. So who do you want to start with:

Hitech
Skuzzy
bustr
Chalenge
GMAN
Condor
Junky
CM Staff
AvA Staff
About 30 other players names I cannot remember helping report bugs while GVing and furballing ........

Is it still OK with you that we have all of the other weekly AH2 events that steal up to 100 AH2 MA players away on some nights? And what about all those guys who no longer up planes and just GV. AH3 live we will never see them again because of the trees and how good AH3 looks from those trees.

Instead of starting this post why didn't you just wishlist this?

Dear Hitech,

I wish you would stop using paying customers as bug testers for your new product and hire professional testers. You are impacting my limited game play time as a paying customer with them not in the AH2 arenas for me to shoot at.

Again don't put words in my mouth, if that is your wish, well that's between you and HTC.   Again for those that can't or won't read what was my original post,  I thought it was a poor idea during prime time when numbers are supper low to try to draw even more people away for the LWA on a Saturday night during prime time when faced with a large map and numbers very very low. 
Traveler
Executive Officer
113th LUcky Strikes
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/113th_Lucky_Strikes

Offline Bear76

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4161
Re: AH3 Vs AH2
« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2016, 02:42:59 PM »
That's so Deja Vu. Meanwhile, back in 2003: AH1 vs. AH2

lol I remember all the doomsayers back then,