Eastern Front 1943 -- which plane set is better

[Delirium]

maximum realism given a need also for playability.  In other words, I want to maximize two things that often pull in opposite directions:  realism and playability.

Having the alt cap is specifically to enhance immersion.  Without it, we will have battles starting at 38k

Agreed 110%!

(wish you guys backed me up when I asked that question of the 49th squadron for their MA mission. It is obvious we think a like.)

[Bruv119]

It is a shame the yaks only carry 120 rounds because being swamped by vast numbers of 109s and 190s  how are we meant to bring them all down? 

I agree with gscholz there should have been more la5s ( failing that some lend lease spitfires) just to give the vvs a fighting chance.   I just hope the luftwaffe can bring their A game and make it exciting. 

[Zimme83]

You will still not be allowed to fly anything but a Storch.

[artik]

 To be honest, I really like this planeset it is most historically accurate one for a long time in AH events at eastern front
Usually lots of P40 and hurricanes that shade the Russian models

Yaks are very nice planes to fly. Mostly they are much easier to master than tricky 109s or 190s :

Center line weapons, great all around visibility, good maneuverability, reasonable performance and very forgiving airframe.

To be honest in scenarios it may be much more important than top speed or climb ratio


One thing you should remember for the eastern front, it was very different from what happened at west

There were no high altitude strategic bombing, all operations were tactical,

For example major yaks role was to escort il2s - very different from the escort of b17 or ju88

Interestingly one of the best early war planes was mig-1/3, over 15-20k it outperformed every German plane of that period but its production was cancelled because it wasn't needed

PVO units (air defense command) was receiving the least needed models because major war operations were tactical

[Brooke]

You will still not be allowed to fly anything but a Storch.

While this is true, Bruv is still predicted to get 7-12 kills per frame in it.

[Brooke]

I'm with Artik on this one.  I'm very much looking forward to some scrappy, down-low, Eastern Front action.

I'm even an Il-2 pilot in this one, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this aspect. 

Even have been reading "Over Fields of Fire:  Flying the Sturmovik in action on the Eastern Front 1942-1945," by Il-2 pilot Anna Timofeeva-Egorova (41 combat missions in the Il-2).  It is a great book.

It was a hard choice of what to fly.  I've flown 109's, 190's, Ju 88's, and La-5's in past scenarios, but this is the first scenario to have Yak-9T's, Yak-7b's, or Tu-2's -- so those were appealing.  I have since reading "Attack of the Airacobras," by Losa, wanted to fly a P-39 in an Eastern Front scenario.  I've flown a lot of the Yak-7b in the MA quite a bit and like it just fine.  In the end, I thought Il-2's would be hardest to fill and so decided to pitch in there.

[DmonSlyr]

It's really all about your flying style.

Like to stay high, BnZ and kill bombers-  190A5 all day.

Like to defend on the deck, pull shiesty defense moves, and come out of no where  - La5

Like to play mid alt with offense and defense 109G6 and Yak.

The iL-s can take a beating, get them to overshoot and pop them with your wicked ammo.


My plane of choice would be the La-5. I don't know if I'll be able to make it, but I'll grab an La-5 if I can. It's a dirty bird.

The 109G6 is my second Favorite. Great ride too, but the La5 in AH is better for quick kills. The LA5 just feels so much quicker and lighter than a 109. I'll have to fight 1v1 soon in a 109 v me la5 and really see the difference. 

I HATE flying in Yaks, so that's out of the question.

The 190a5 is great. That's going to pull some nice ropes on all of the Russian planes. I'd fly that. Would love to kill some bombers. Although, I really like to get down and crafty so staying high and fast worrying about outrunning yaks would bore me.

[Brooke]

"Once committed to an attack, fly in at full speed. After scoring crippling or disabling hits, I would clear myself and then repeat the process. I never pursued the enemy once they had eluded me. Better to break off and set up again for a new assault. I always began my attacks from full strength, if possible, my ideal flying height being 22,000 ft because at that altitude I could best utilize the performance of my aircraft. Combat flying is based on the slashing attack and rough maneuvering. In combat flying, fancy precision aerobatic work is really not of much use. Instead, it is the rough maneuver which succeeds."

— Colonel Erich 'Bubi' Hartmann, aka Karaya One, the World's leading ace, with 352 victories in WWII Jagdgeschwader 52.

GScholz, I hope that you are up there at 20k in your personal Bf 109G-6 ("Karaya G") as part of JG 52.  If so, you'll be up there with some good pilots -- Dolby, MIZZOU, zimme83, Zacherof, 1Tundra1, SubwayCH, BangsBox, Sloehand, BFOOT1, Sukov -- ready to take the fight to Ivan.

[GScholz]

I probably will be.

[Brooke]

I probably will be.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! 

"Karaya G" it is! 

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The F8 should be faster than the A5 on the deck flying clean.

[Zimme83]

It is.

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Best plane to use on IL2s . good armour and nice guns

[Brooke]

So far in the battle, the kills are fairly even, 193 VVS vs. 179 LW.