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Offline Zoney

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Ace Pilot
« on: May 14, 2016, 12:55:17 PM »
While flying along last night I got to thinking about the "Ace Pilot" thing we do.

I like it and I hope I have an idea to possibly enhance it. 

I would like to see the Ace Pilot squadron and aircraft type be know by the enemy 24 hours before the start of the event.  Furthermore I would like to see the Ace Pilot aircraft and only him be assigned a specific skin to be flown only by him as the Ace Pilot identifier.

Both sides would do this to even it out.

I believe it would give more of an immersion to the event because I believe the historical RL Ace Pilots, at least the well know one's, were a know entity.  The Enemy knew what kind of plane and skin he flew.

Thank you for your attention, what do you think?
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Offline Nefarious

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2016, 01:16:25 PM »
Interesting idea,  perhaps we can do it next month.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2016, 02:54:01 PM »
I disagree about having separate skins. The Hartmann types that wore very elaborate personal marking, to the point where he could be identified easily by the enemy, were rare. In fact, Erich Hartmann is the only example I can think of from WW2. Herman Graf was another, but it is debatable if his brightly colored mounts were ever actually used in combat.

The most important thing regarding the use of the ace missions is balancing the plane pairings well on an individual frame basis. Nef does this well, others...not so much.
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Offline Big Rat

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2016, 07:16:17 PM »
Zoney, It was Sik1, my wingman last night.  I would have told you if you would have asked  :grin:.  We normally fly obnoxiously obvious skins, no matter which side :D  I wouldn't be against this at all as I enjoy head hunting very much :aok

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2016, 04:47:50 AM »
Don't do skins.  Get HTC to allow skins to be set in missions.  Then we will do skins.  Skins are a woftam without that ability.
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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2016, 09:40:53 AM »
Don't do skins.  Get HTC to allow skins to be set in missions.  Then we will do skins.  Skins are a woftam without that ability.

The 412th creates missions however we do not launch with them. We launch on my command and that allows us to set skins and ords and still be a part of the mission.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2016, 01:31:08 PM »
i also agree with devil, I think that most of the deadly fighter pilots kept things low key so that the entire enemy air forces wasn't looking for them! and if they did it would be a very subtle difference.

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2016, 04:31:47 PM »
Not a bad idea, but I normally see most planes in the default skin since I only download certain skins. Usually the obnoxiously obvious skin like Big Rat mentioned.

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2016, 04:34:54 PM »
The only real issue I see with selecting the Ace before the frame starts and announcing it publicly might see a pilot not show up, I guess back-ups could be provided but with so much notice, we might not know someone is going to miss till right before frame start.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2016, 07:37:25 AM »
..We normally fly obnoxiously obvious skins...BigRat

read "Cow skins"  :bolt:

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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2016, 07:49:20 AM »
What if the CM selected the squads for all 6 ace missions when they selected and posted the CICs for each frame?
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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2016, 07:48:02 PM »
That would make a mandatory ride and possibly mission profile limitation that could hamper the numbers game that is often a difficult part of being a CIC. Not saying it would not work. I am just a KISS fan.
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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2016, 10:19:10 PM »
I agree. leave the decision making to the CiC.
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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2016, 09:22:13 AM »
I agree. leave the decision making to the CiC.
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Re: Ace Pilot
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2016, 10:31:30 AM »
So next month should we try the Ace Mission announcement before Friday then?

Perhaps an ace pilot and a backup should be chosen?

I could announce here on the BBS Thursday night before each frame?
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!