Author Topic: Erich Rudorffer  (Read 14198 times)

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Erich Rudorffer
« on: May 20, 2016, 03:22:20 PM »
Passed away last month, I didn't recall a thread for it, but Rest easy sir.  :cheers: :salute

He was the last living recipient of The Nights Iron Cross with Oak Leaves and Swords. Finished the war with 222 air to air victories.

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2016, 04:39:15 PM »
He was a Shot down Allied servicemen?

Good riddance  :old:

What's up with you?

He was not fighting for his country, he was fighting to steal other peoples countries

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 05:11:59 PM »
He was a German fighter pilot doing his bit in the global conflict of WW2.

The fact that he fought for Germany does not take away from his feats and achievements.

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2016, 06:46:46 PM »
He chose to kill the servicemen of other countries knowing there was no moral justification for his deeds. Following orders didn't protect any member of the German military or government at Nuremberg. 222 victories is not a man who was worried for the lives of his family or being imprisoned or executed due to none compliance. Fess, your own country lost countrymen against the Germans defending the right to be free of those countries he took part in killing their servicemen. Feats and achievement in an immoral war, I guess if you worship immorality. 

Seems a lot of gamers have a similar attitude as yours in WW2 games these days about the Germans. They did have spiffy uniforms and toys compared to everyone else. Made them look good while immorally taking away the freedom of whole countries. If you think those victories, feats, and achievements are admirable also.   
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2016, 07:14:33 PM »
I have family that fought on both sides.  but it bother's  when they talk about german's "heroes" passing away. go talk to survivors see what they think.  there's a lot of german civilians and military who are true heroes.  they helped innocent people survive.  nobody ever posts anything about them.


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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2016, 07:19:53 PM »
He chose to kill the servicemen of other countries knowing there was no moral justification for his deeds. Following orders didn't protect any member of the German military or government at Nuremberg. 222 victories is not a man who was worried for the lives of his family or being imprisoned or executed due to none compliance. Fess, your own country lost countrymen against the Germans defending the right to be free of those countries he took part in killing their servicemen. Feats and achievement in an immoral war, I guess if you worship immorality. 

Seems a lot of gamers have a similar attitude as yours in WW2 games these days about the Germans. They did have spiffy uniforms and toys compared to everyone else. Made them look good while immorally taking away the freedom of whole countries. If you think those victories, feats, and achievements are admirable also.

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2016, 07:52:30 PM »
He chose to kill the servicemen of other countries knowing there was no moral justification for his deeds. Following orders didn't protect any member of the German military or government at Nuremberg. 222 victories is not a man who was worried for the lives of his family or being imprisoned or executed due to none compliance. Fess, your own country lost countrymen against the Germans defending the right to be free of those countries he took part in killing their servicemen. Feats and achievement in an immoral war, I guess if you worship immorality. 

Seems a lot of gamers have a similar attitude as yours in WW2 games these days about the Germans. They did have spiffy uniforms and toys compared to everyone else. Made them look good while immorally taking away the freedom of whole countries. If you think those victories, feats, and achievements are admirable also.

I thought that I had seen it all.   But when hypocrisy like this is posted, I have to wonder why on Earth you fly a cartoon Focke-Wulfe?   Because your own words defy any semblance of logic and I know that I am not alone.   

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2016, 07:54:32 PM »
I thought that I had seen it all.   But when hypocrisy like this is posted, I have to wonder why on Earth you fly a cartoon Focke-Wulfe?   Because your own words defy any semblance of logic and I know that I am not alone.   

 :salute to Herr Rudorffer

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2016, 07:55:58 PM »
I also used to owned a vw.


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You better incinerate the title!   Bustr will rear end you in an Audi....
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2016, 08:20:31 PM »
You better incinerate the title!   Bustr will rear end you in an Audi....

actually I agree with bustr.  like i said i have family that fought on both sides.  but I wonder why nobody posts about real german war heroes.


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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2016, 08:26:11 PM »
Between Goebbels' propaganda, the fact that France and Britain declared war and attacked Germany first, and the indiscriminate fire bombing of German civilians, many Germans felt they were the ones defending their country and people.
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2016, 08:39:58 PM »

The man was shot down 16 times and bailed 9 times.   Yeah - he wasn't defending his family, friends, mates, and countryman...to the last.

I can't wait for FSO tonight.  No "Horrido" tonight - only "Buster"

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2016, 08:51:29 PM »
The man was shot down 16 times and bailed 9 times.   Yeah - he wasn't defending his family, friends, mates, and countryman...to the last.

I can't wait for FSO tonight.  No "Horrido" tonight - only "Buster"

Thought you were more...something...

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 :rofl    Exactly bud.   
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2016, 08:59:06 PM »
Between Goebbels' propaganda, the fact that France and Britain declared war and attacked Germany first, and the indiscriminate fire bombing of German civilians, many Germans felt they were the ones defending their country and people.


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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2016, 09:00:03 PM »
The man was shot down 16 times and bailed 9 times.   Yeah - he wasn't defending his family, friends, mates, and countryman...to the last.

I can't wait for FSO tonight.  No "Horrido" tonight - only "Buster"

Thought you were more...something...

Out.

Don't forget about me.  I'll be hunting you.


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