What is the criteria for a plane to be perked?

[caldera]

Yak3 should not be 18 ENY, I would suggest it at 12.

That seems more like it.  Also, the F4U-1A should be around 8.   

[Randy1]

. . . the F4U-1A should be around 8.   

If the F4u1A was as good in ww2 as in AH you wonder why they developed the D model.  A sure step backwards. 

[Scca]

Randy, I think you're confusing the plane with the pilot.  A Yak-3 doesn't make a so-so player great, neither does an F4U-1A.  We have some very good players that fly Hogs, and your chance of encountering one is pretty high.  If we based ENY for 38's looking only at AKAK or Violator as the pilots then 38's would be an ENY of 5.  Starting to see what I mean?  There are also some pretty good Yak drivers out there these days. 

Yak's have very little ammo, they choke over 10Kish, they have very short legs, and basically no ords.  Ya, they are the Mini Cooper of planes in AH, but when you look in totality, they really aren't all "that". 

I know they seem to kill you a lot, but that's no reason to be a hater       

[bustr]

If the F4u1A was as good in ww2 as in AH you wonder why they developed the D model.  A sure step backwards.

We keep resorting back to WW2 when that is invalid for the MA and how we match up all of the rides into a single climate controlled fish bowl instead of limit the match ups to their historic settings and predominant roles ordered by the general staffs. The F4u1A and D were being asked to do more than just furball under ideal conditions. The NAVY saw the D as a more powerful bomb truck rather than a furballer.

In our game players have years of opportunity to make others believe their favorite ride is over modeled instead the individual player after thousands of hours furballing in one ride, has become uber at manipulating that ride in this game.

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Fix the damage model of the Yak3, and its ability to climb endlessly @100mph without torque penalty.

Today its by far the most durable fighter in-game.

Someone called it "the flying Yamato" which is a very good description, concidered it had a 7mm armored plate behind pilot only and a weight of 2 metric tonnes.

[Squire]

Today its by far the most durable fighter in-game.

Completely disagree. Go fly it and see how super it is at absorbing damage and be prepared to be very disappointed. Takes no more damage than a Yak-9U or a Yak-9T.

and its ability to climb endlessly @100mph without torque penalty.

...does not do that either. The torque absolutely kicks in at that speed and the a/c cannot continue to climb at only 100 IAS.

[Randall172]

well I did see this

This was an historic problem that plagued the Russian plywood coverings on La and Yak wings. This made me think about all the complaints concerning the Yak3 having armor plating like a Tiger2. Did some testing offline with La5\7, Yak 3\9u, Mossi6 and P47-D40 as a control. I single shot all of these planes in the drone circle from 200yds with the P39Q 37mm, Yak 9T 37mm, Ta 152 30mm, K4 30mm and the P39-D 20mm.

All shooting was into the rear of the fuselage to test the kill ability of the round.

1. - 37mm US and Ru - One shot destroyed all fighters.

2. - 30mm - One shot destroyed all fighters with the exception of the Yak3 one time took an oil hit then second 30mm destroyed it. I shot at the Yak3 for testing one extra time after each time I shot down the other planes as a comparison. The oil hit, then second round killing the Yak3 occurred only once during this.

3. - 20mm - up to 5 shots was the maximum of 20mm for any plane and that was the P47 most of the time. Average for the La5\7 was 2, Yak-9u was 2, Mossi6 was 3 and the Yak 3 all over the place, sometimes 2 and up to 5 at times.

I performed an additional test with the 20mm of shooting sub 200. All planes went down 1-2 rounds, with the Russian planes going down with single hits. Seems 200 and beyond has some effect on the effectiveness of rounds. The La5\7 and Yak 3\9u at 200 were easy to miss with all the cannon round types slipping past the fuselage or over the wings. Then considering the small cross section and my observation about 200 yards, it's quite easy to think the Yak3 has Tiger2 armor plating. Also depending on where in the 200 distance showing from the icon, I ran into at least once the La5\7 needing 5 rounds to take them down and the Yak 3\9u.

[save]

Bozon's thread showe no less than 17 hispano's until the plane crashed.

It could be that bustr's inconsistency findings could be even worse/better depending on what end you are at.

[save]

double grr

[Zacherof]

I don't have a film but I encountered a jug a little fatter than 200, were my convergence was set and I fired a burst where I tapped my fire all guns trigger. Poof went the wing. Did the same to a yak with a jug and held the trigger and the yak only had a fuel leak lol. Perplexing

[JunkyII]

Brew and yak 3's ENYs are both way too high...I'd take a Brew over any 109 in a 1v1 fight co alt co e. (Just try some climbing a K4 then a Brew....they aren't that far off...which doesnt seem right)

If you fly either of them and think your good because you land some kills in them you should go to another ride and see if your actually good....I suggest a Jug or something along those lines.

[Zimme83]

Brew and yak 3's ENYs are both way too high...I'd take a Brew over any 109 in a 1v1 fight co alt co e. (Just try some climbing a K4 then a Brew....they aren't that far off...which doesnt seem right)

If you fly either of them and think your good because you land some kills in them you should go to another ride and see if your actually good....I suggest a Jug or something along those lines.

 

[FishBait]

Just popping in to agree with everyone else regarding the Yak3. It's almost an LA-7 in speed with almost the roll rate of a 190, and the guns, while limited in ammo, get the job done. No way it should be as cheap as it is.

[Lazerr]

I agree,  yak is a little too high.

[Squire]

I encountered a jug a little fatter than 200, were my convergence was set and I fired a burst where I tapped my fire all guns trigger. Poof went the wing. Did the same to a yak with a jug and held the trigger and the yak only had a fuel leak lol.

I fired at a Bf 109K-4 at D400 and got some hits on the port wing but the wing didn't come off. I fired at a D400 at a P-47M and got some hits on the port wing and it came off. Ergo there must be something wrong with the damage model on the Bf 109K? that's the logic you are using. A real test would need to be done with some empirical data. Not fishing stories.