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Offline Viper61

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This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« on: June 18, 2016, 01:31:24 AM »
Nef and the rest of the CM Staff:

   Truly awesome changes from Frame 1 to Frame 2.  Best frame Ive helped plan for (squad level) and flown in the last 6 months!!!  My squad commented on a great flight for 20 min after we were all shot down!

   Now for the first time there was enough force to conduct a layered operation.  Planning with 6 squads was great.

   <S> to the AXIS side.  Great fight.  I know our squad got into a great fight with parts of G3MF.  <S> guys.

    Watching a large bomber stream with escorts getting hit by a large enemy force was a site to watch from the wave tops.

  Changes that made the a poor scenario great:

       Removal of the ships
       Dropping from 4 targets to 2 targets - biggest impact
       Adjustments to the plane set
       AXIS and ALLIED target equal and positioned even relative to each side
       STRAT type targets only - big impact

   The shift to defending 1 target and attacking 1 really made the difference.  We had huge numbers in huge fights.  Scouts killing Scouts.  Saw 88's dogfighting fighters.  CIC's for the first time had the resources to plan an operation on a large scale.  My squad was in a running gun fight for 20 min!

   THIS IS HOW EVERY FSO SCENARIO SHOULD BE SETUP!!!!!!  Dump everything else you thought worked and use this frame as the benchmark.  Having more than 35 guys in an operation was a lot of fun.  Our turn out increased by 2 just based on the Op Plan published last Sat.  Good setups do increase turnout, keep it up.

   A great idea using the STRAT sites as targets.  Something big to go after, well defended by ack to keep silly NOE attacks from coming.  This should be our targets every week, drop the fields and use the STRATs only.

   This was so much fun you could do a repeat next Friday and it would come out different and just as much fun.

  CONGRADS NEF nicely done and cant wait for Frame 3 <S>
   

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Re: This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2016, 08:09:21 AM »
I really liked running into other friendly groups in a massive furball type situation. There were like 4-5 furballs just in our area, some of them were really quick but it was fun and it was so scattered you really had to keep looking all of the time to not get picked by the random spit or typh.  :aok

Also looking forward to the next frame!  :salute
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Re: This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2016, 01:36:06 PM »
My hat is off to the Axis attack!  I read the first wave as a sweep ok and conveniently and accidentally positioned myself north of it.  The ingress from the east looked suspicious but needed to be looked at closely.  By the time we eyeballed that and identified it as a second sweep, we were well out of position.  Great work by the 49th scouts fixed the Ju88s in a timely fashion, but getting to them was a bother (understatement).  Attacking them was furious and fast and so many fires in the sky as friend and foe twisted and fought.  One minute you are the bold hunter confident and determined and oh so soon you are running away alone and lost, no more bullets remain, with fuel nearly gone and nothing nearby to talk to, but angry little specks seething behind.

Why oh why can't I hit anything today?  Quick, rearm and back into this!
I get really really tired of selective realism disguised as a desire to make bombers easier to kill.

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Re: This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2016, 05:18:07 PM »
I was kind of surprised at the amount of defenders at the Allied City. I was expecting wave after wave of Spitfires, but they seemed to just trickle in. The defense seemed to vanish and I only had shot at one aircraft. Ironically I would be killed by someone I never saw while heading to the Axis City area to attempt to catch the Allies on the return.

I actually saw more action, in the dark, last frame.

I didn't confirm this, but I believe that was first time in a VERY LONG TIME that FSO has ever done 2 Objective Setup. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I do not remember a time where we have ever done that, maybe some of the first Tour of Dutys when (FSO) first got started. I guess it's just the sign of the times, I'm feeling deflated.

I ran nearly the same objectives for Frame 3, only switched the Allied City to a different one that is a little closer to Dieppe.
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Re: This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2016, 12:49:53 AM »
Nef we tried to actively avoid the sweeps for obvious reasons.  The close escort for the Ju88s probably saw all the action you didn't.  Having said that, the tactics used did force us to spread out and that blunted the defence.  The CICs for the next frame will have to plan and think about how to use their forces.  This setup does take it beyond sending a medium squad to defend a medium target etc.  It was hectic out there and it's a long time since I was so busy flying about trying to understand what was happening around me.  Fantastic fun.
I get really really tired of selective realism disguised as a desire to make bombers easier to kill.

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Re: This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2016, 10:04:13 AM »
This setup does take it beyond sending a medium squad to defend a medium target etc.

Yeah, it's more like split your forces in two. 1 half for attack, 1 half for defense. Could it be easier than that? Yes, it allows you more freedom to assign Scouts, Probes, etc... But the majority of CICs don't do that anyway.

Sorry, but it appears my flame for FSO is dying and if no one from the community is willing to step up then we have an issue bigger than the distances between targets.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2016, 11:01:41 AM »
Sorry to come off as Negative Nancy, but the CM team is in need of some new FSO Admin talent.

PM me.
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Re: This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2016, 05:19:57 PM »
hey, as long as viper is happy, all is well in the FSO world.

Sorry to come off as Negative Nancy, but the CM team is in need of some new FSO Admin talent.

PM me.

I nominate viper61!


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Re: This Scenario NO LONGER needs work!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2016, 06:27:41 PM »
I had a lot of fun in this setup.
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