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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #105 on: July 04, 2016, 02:57:50 PM »
All fine examples of how to quote a post then completely misdirect the intent of the post without offering a shred in return, its an internet artform
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #106 on: July 04, 2016, 03:37:24 PM »
 I didn't misdirect anything, I only pointed out more "you're not having fun the right way" posts. What kind of return are you expecting?


I agree that instant action is necessary, but promoting it and excluding any consideration for different types of game play is just pushing the dagger deeper and twisting it.

There are already free instant action games out there with better graphics, air spawns, more aircraft, more tanks, and more players. That doesn't leave much for AH to compete on.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #107 on: July 04, 2016, 03:39:39 PM »
3 sides isss better with a lot of players. It keeps the sides even. And when they are not even, there is usually a team getting its but kicked. Which is generally the best side to be on to find all the fights! See how that works?

With a 2 sided map, people just want to be on the winning team and 8/10 times everyone hoards one side for an easy win.


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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #108 on: July 04, 2016, 03:41:05 PM »
There are always exceptions to the rule, but I believe HiTech has toyed with 2 sides 3 sides and 4 sided wars, coming down on that 3 sided was the best.


Back when you had 700 players in an arena yes...    The dynamics have shifted some.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #109 on: July 04, 2016, 03:51:17 PM »
Players being unable to adjust thier gaming to suit the changes whining for the game to adjust instead so they can continue to fly the same stale mission profiles without having to learn new ones.

Way to herd all the cattle into a small room.

That surely won't work.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #110 on: July 04, 2016, 04:00:37 PM »
Players being unable to adjust thier gaming to suit the changes whining for the game to adjust instead so they can continue to fly the same stale mission profiles without having to learn new ones.

Way to herd all the cattle into a small room.

That surely won't work.

If people want an arena where they can't find anyone to fight they can always go back to Warbirds.  I hear they're selling plenty of that over there.   Ahem. 
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #111 on: July 04, 2016, 04:12:46 PM »

Back when you had 700 players in an arena yes...    The dynamics have shifted some.

Worked well with it capped at 300
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #112 on: July 05, 2016, 02:28:27 AM »
Worked well with it capped at 300

Yeah, but not so well with 50.
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« Reply #113 on: July 05, 2016, 07:24:01 AM »
Yeah, but not so well with 50.
You have to sit and think, "what is the maximum numbers online at peak time" then go from there. I've seen AcesHigh above 300.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #114 on: July 05, 2016, 08:36:09 AM »
I didn't misdirect anything, I only pointed out more "you're not having fun the right way" posts. What kind of return are you expecting?


I agree that instant action is necessary, but promoting it and excluding any consideration for different types of game play is just pushing the dagger deeper and twisting it.

There are already free instant action games out there with better graphics, air spawns, more aircraft, more tanks, and more players. That doesn't leave much for AH to compete on.

I'll just say this, I'm not a younger player, but I still play a variety of multiplayer games and have three sons who all play multiplayer games. This is a business, comparing this game to business models and business trends elsewhere, if you don't adapt you get passed up, your customer base shrinks and you disappear, doom and gloom yes sometimes in business unpopular decisions need too be made

The thing you cant ignore is that HTC has made it this far, we don't know where he intends to take his business model, we don't know what research he's done or how much time he's spent doing the necessary research actually playing other games to determine where the business model should be or at least validate his thought process, we can only make suggestion's based on what we see and like here and elsewhere by comparison. 

Personally I wish him well and hope he can find the balance, all I know is that I'm having a hard time staying here for more than a few months at a time even though this is my favorite game.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #115 on: July 05, 2016, 10:43:36 AM »
You have to sit and think, "what is the maximum numbers online at peak time" then go from there. I've seen AcesHigh above 300.


Once a week?


And if a big map is good for 300 now when a big map was good for 500+ THEN...  By extension a small/medium map with 300 would be great.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #116 on: July 05, 2016, 11:52:24 AM »
I didn't misdirect anything, I only pointed out more "you're not having fun the right way" posts. What kind of return are you expecting?


I agree that instant action is necessary, but promoting it and excluding any consideration for different types of game play is just pushing the dagger deeper and twisting it.

There are already free instant action games out there with better graphics, air spawns, more aircraft, more tanks, and more players. That doesn't leave much for AH to compete on.

I cannot for the life of me understand ANYONE wanting air spawns, that is just plain stupid. I have tried most all of the other air combat games and find most of them boring. Many you have to pay extra for better planes  or play a long time to earn enough points for better equipment.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #117 on: July 05, 2016, 11:53:50 AM »
Interesting, I just hit level 30 in Tom Clancy's The Division, I now get "Daily Missions" for additional "rewards" I know Daily isn't practical here but the concept of Daily Missions for perks, looks like its designed to keep people playing giving them something else to do.  Might be a nice training arm for new players.  I know we have missions here but to be honest the quality is low or organization of them is low. 

Quality missions or as I've said before a campaign mode AH
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #118 on: July 05, 2016, 11:55:58 AM »
I cannot for the life of me understand ANYONE wanting air spawns, that is just plain stupid. I have tried most all of the other air combat games and find most of them boring. Many you have to pay extra for better planes  or play a long time to earn enough points for better equipment.

Think out of the box, maybe they're not for you but can they be worked into something else for the attraction value to others

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #119 on: July 05, 2016, 01:15:57 PM »
Not true.

It is true and has been shown to be true in multiple online flight sims.  You can ask HiTech yourself, he'll tell you the same thing I as I did.
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