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Re: loss of members
« Reply #225 on: July 11, 2016, 07:13:19 PM »
^^^ That's the absolute truth right there ^^^


I wasn't arguing any lack of fights.  There were plenty of fights to be had last night... not a whole lot under 20k, which was as weird as it was refreshing.

Shuffler... why if I was a Rook backed into a corner with bish/knit barely fighting, would I go bish/knit to pick a fight.  Doesn't make sense.  FWIW, the Knits were actually having some fun with the Rooks last night.  Bish were doing the usual whack-a-mole thing.
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Re: loss of members
« Reply #226 on: July 11, 2016, 07:14:25 PM »
I logged on at about 10:30 am CDT...this continued all day...I logged off around 8pm...I never had a lack of fights...

In my experience, approx. 11 pm Pacific onwards, it is not like that.

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Re: loss of members
« Reply #227 on: July 11, 2016, 07:34:13 PM »
If the front lines are too big the attacking force just NOE one field and get it before anyone can defend it, on a smaller map they even have to fight to get it.


Best nights in the game is when both sides are attacking your own...plenty of fights to go around.
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Re: loss of members
« Reply #228 on: July 11, 2016, 07:51:52 PM »
In my experience, approx. 11 pm Pacific onwards, it is not like that.

Seeing as that's 2am Eastern, im not surprised you couldn't find much.
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Re: loss of members
« Reply #229 on: July 11, 2016, 08:13:52 PM »
Chasing flashing bases trying to find the fight just to have them run to friendly wires or bail out of high buffs, all without dark is not a fight

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Re: loss of members
« Reply #230 on: July 11, 2016, 08:49:39 PM »
<snip> AHIII looks great. In fact since I fly there most now, AHII is boring by comparison.
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Re: loss of members
« Reply #231 on: July 11, 2016, 08:51:04 PM »
A lost my member once, then I went on a diet and I found it again.

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Re: loss of members
« Reply #232 on: July 11, 2016, 08:59:25 PM »
You have film of this?

I have film of flying around chasing darbars, or joining the horde trying to take back a base that was snuck NOE by our HQ. Neither of which are even close to being called a fight.

Another thing, what do you consider a "fight"? What you call a fight may be way off from what some here are looking for.

LOL  :rofl :rofl :rofl

I know what the hell a fight is fugi...its not picking' and its not runnin'

There were other guys there too that haunt these boards that can vouch for it too...

Matter of fact...I might have a film or two... I know I saved one where I won a 4 v 1...

Over the holiday weekend I was on one early morning and spent the whole day defending a base from spin and a bunch of other nits and there wasn't any numbers and had numerous fights

We know what kind of " fights" you want fugi....and I know a bunch of other guys in this game that wouldn't subscribe to your idea of "fight"

My idea of fight is surrounded by red... watching mfers go poof as they try to kill me only to get the tides turned on them...

As I said...cry all you want to about numbers... I can find a good 1 v 1 fight anytime I log on...you can take that to the bank

Or maybe you can log on and see a map you don't like and log off and come to the boards and cry about it....

I'm not at the office so I can't post another no crying thing...

Don't rage quit bro!!!!!  :aok

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Re: loss of members
« Reply #233 on: July 11, 2016, 09:09:45 PM »
LOL  :rofl :rofl :rofl

I know what the hell a fight is fugi...its not picking' and its not runnin'

There were other guys there too that haunt these boards that can vouch for it too...

Matter of fact...I might have a film or two... I know I saved one where I won a 4 v 1...

Over the holiday weekend I was on one early morning and spent the whole day defending a base from spin and a bunch of other nits and there wasn't any numbers and had numerous fights

We know what kind of " fights" you want fugi....and I know a bunch of other guys in this game that wouldn't subscribe to your idea of "fight"

My idea of fight is surrounded by red... watching mfers go poof as they try to kill me only to get the tides turned on them...

As I said...cry all you want to about numbers... I can find a good 1 v 1 fight anytime I log on...you can take that to the bank

Or maybe you can log on and see a map you don't like and log off and come to the boards and cry about it....

I'm not at the office so I can't post another no crying thing...

Don't rage quit bro!!!!!  :aok

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Ahhhh so by you saying everything is right in the world there isn't a problem and those of us pointing them out don't know what we are talking about.  :rolleyes:

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Re: loss of members
« Reply #234 on: July 11, 2016, 11:18:23 PM »
Ahhhh so by you saying everything is right in the world there isn't a problem and those of us pointing them out don't know what we are talking about.  :rolleyes:

Is there enough room in that hole you and semp have your head buried in?

I never said there was nothing wrong...the major thing I see...people complain about not being able to find fights...maybe they should fight each other instead of complaining that they can't find fights when apparently everybody is looking for a fight while complaining about not being able to find fights....does that make sense   :rofl

Or how about everybody on the boards that can't find fights get with each other in these threads about not being able to find fights to fight each other....oh what a novel idea...people that want to fight fighting each other

But for some reason that doesn't happen  :headscratch:

But these threads sure happen a lot  :O
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Re: loss of members
« Reply #235 on: July 11, 2016, 11:31:46 PM »
Bish took V44 on ndisles yesterday morning; took away one of the best/consistent tank fights the game has to offer. It may not have killed all the tank fights on the map but it did take away that center town fight...which has kept my interest for nearly 10 years (Kind of like crater center). I doubt we would ever see these fields made uncapturable in AH2 but the players could be observant toward others and not take them, especially when it is taken NOE by an overwelming force.

At the same time, I will say yesterday I spent many hours online in the center Island in a fighter, then another couple hours on the outside trying to help take fields. An entire day of fights.

But there are definitely times on certain maps where there aren't any fights....if you disagree with that, your experience is just lucky....ask any of the European players.

2PM EST...that's about the time you're sure to get a fight on any map...now those fights might be boring or lame due to excessive HOs, Gangs, ect ect ect but there is something to shoot at in some form.

I'll put it this way. End of 2006 when I first started playing from EST...The fight was RAGING whenever I got on, no matter the map. In 2009 I played from Korea, I worked during the week so I couldn't hit primetime except for the weekends. I could still log on and get a fight though, during this time I first started learning 1v1s...actually trying to do some sort of ACM...because the fights in the MA were smaller and I was getting beat 1v1 more often. From 2010 to 2012, I again played from the east coast(except the year in the stan box)....Fights were raging. 2012-2015 I played from Hawaii but I had a 1 1/2 yr break in the middle of it. This is when I first noticed a difference in the game, where there would be times I'd log on and log off almost immediately. If I got on at say 8 hawaii time during the week and a big map was up, yep I might be logging off to play another game. These days I'm back in EST, I use to be more of a "morning crew" on the weekends but like I said earlier, these days it depends on the map...so I stick with other games in the morning and Aces High in the evenings.

The game has offered me almost a decade of game play, everyone has got upset throughout their time here...Plenty of players that I dislike because of their gameplay and plenty of game mechanics I think are wrong...But I am interested to see how AH3 turns out and I'm sure there is going to be something like the old commercial on the Discover Wings channel that will bring players in just like it did for me back then.

I do hope the new members do 3 things....Beat the learning curve(through good training and a competitive spirit), find a good squad, and learn the good fight early on.
Or how about everybody on the boards that can't find fights get with each other in these threads about not being able to find fights to fight each other....oh what a novel idea...people that want to fight fighting each other

But for some reason that doesn't happen  :headscratch:
I'll bite since I'm definitely one of the bigger voices for lack of fights due to certain reasons.

I post my position on 200, fly 3 sectors to a field, drop down to NOE in a TA152 and let enemy planes get on my 6 and I still can't get anyone to fight me sometimes....Tell me what should I do in that situation???

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Re: loss of members
« Reply #236 on: July 12, 2016, 06:38:36 AM »
Hey Puller,

I logged on tonight.  36 players on.  Found a fight for about 45 minutes.  Then all I experienced was high buffs and manned guns.

Please let me know when you want to wing up so you can show me all these hours filled with fights.

I have just logged off because I am bored.  I play for fighter combat.

I look forward to you taking the time to educate me on where I am going wrong.  Many thanks.

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Re: loss of members
« Reply #237 on: July 12, 2016, 07:34:04 AM »
If a provider supplies a fun experience that everyone want to enjoy then demand will increase.

Has the AHII "product" changed over the years to any great extent? I would argue no. It may have broadened the scope of the product (more rides) but the PPPP is much the same.

So what has changed to cause a drop in demand? Well the easy (obvious) answer is that the market has changed.

AHIII beyond beta will have to address the market of 2016 to 2020 and beyond if it wishes to return to growth.

This may fly in the face of the market needs of 1996-2000 that formed much of the product structure we see today. Any market adjustment  may have to be radical, it may incur some risk taking.

IMO its about the game play quality, the reward the player gets for participating (and we see there are many definitions as to what that means) and the access to game play (i.e. access to the product) via multiple routes and payment options.
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Re: loss of members
« Reply #238 on: July 12, 2016, 07:38:23 AM »
Hey Puller,

I logged on tonight.  36 players on.  Found a fight for about 45 minutes.  Then all I experienced was high buffs and manned guns.

Please let me know when you want to wing up so you can show me all these hours filled with fights.

I have just logged off because I am bored.  I play for fighter combat.

I look forward to you taking the time to educate me on where I am going wrong.  Many thanks.

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Re: loss of members
« Reply #239 on: July 12, 2016, 09:44:14 AM »
Fly high, fight buffs!   :rock   For fun, shadow them however far they go, only engage when they're in the bombsight.  Don't do that with the 9's guy. :airplane:
The issue here that a lot face is bomb and bailers...and also they just don't have the time to go to 30K....a set of 30K buffs above a field will take me 30-40 minutes to kill if I just noticed them above a field.
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