DA 1 on 1's - let's step up and go at it

[Wiley]

The standard DA merge is unrealistic.   I used the words precisely as I intended.

By "standard merge" do you mean the guys that think any maneuvering before passing the 3-9 line is cheating?  If so, I've only ever seen I think 2 people that believed that.  For most, other than going above the agreed upon alt, anything goes except for guns cold on the (edit: first) merge.  After that it's generally wide open.

Wiley.

[FishBait]

By "standard merge" do you mean the guys that think any maneuvering before passing the 3-9 line is cheating?  If so, I've only ever seen I think 2 people that believed that.  For most, other than going above the agreed upon alt, anything goes except for guns cold on the merge.

The merge has nothing to do with it. He avoids the DA because that would require him to back up his mouth.

[Vraciu]

Vraciu, Sir, I am not trying to argue with you, only trying to help explain the difference in dog fighting and dueling and the use of "the merge" .........

I started AH in Beta in Oct/Nov 1999, and every since I have started, I have never heard of "The standard DA merge".....

I have dueled with a set merge, and I have flown against others in the DA, regardless of Base/area and have seen uncountable different merge angles......

I really hope you understand the difference, I'm done on this issue, hopefully in this thread....

hope this helps, have a blessed day!

TC

I said what I meant.   I meant what I said.

[Vraciu]

The merge has nothing to do with it. He avoids the DA because that would require him to back up his mouth.

Says the guy who got his rear handed to him in the MA despite an E advantage. 

Derp.

[Vraciu]

By "standard merge" do you mean the guys that think any maneuvering before passing the 3-9 line is cheating?  If so, I've only ever seen I think 2 people that believed that.  For most, other than going above the agreed upon alt, anything goes except for guns cold on the (edit: first) merge.  After that it's generally wide open.

Wiley.

It is always the same thing.  Meet co-alt, same E state.    Same fuel state.  Same weapons load out.

That was helpful early on in my "career" but now, not so much.   The MA almost never plays out that way.

[LCADolby]

The Duel is a test of pilot and plane on equal terms.
The DA, a place where a one time enemies can become great friends after a good dance across the sky.
Only a fragile ego would never dare enter the Gentleman's sport of Duelling with a worthy opponent.

[Vraciu]

The Duel is a test of pilot and plane on equal terms.
The DA, a place where a one time enemies can become great friends after a good dance across the sky.
Only a fragile ego would never dare enter the Gentleman's sport of Duelling with a worthy opponent.

Nah.   It's boring.

But yes, friends are usually made there, no question.

[Krupinski]

Nah.   It's boring.

But yes, friends are usually made there, no question.

Yeah it's boring, til you've done enough duels and realize "Hey, everything I've learned in these duels translates extremely well to every other situation I'm in! Wow I'm really becoming a better pilot!" That's when duels become some of the most fun you're going to have in a flight sim.

[Vraciu]

Yeah it's boring, til you've done enough duels and realize "Hey, everything I've learned in these duels translates extremely well to every other situation I'm in! Wow I'm really becoming a better pilot!" That's when duels become some of the most fun you're going to have in a flight sim.

When I want to learn something specific duels are fine.

As for learning, in general, I do that in the MA plenty.    It's a tougher environment with far more variables.

I'm "DA'ed out".

To each his own.  Back to the OP's topic.  I did not intend to hijack his thread.

[Fate]

nvm

[bustr]

Hitech provided different arenas for exactly what FESS did to find fun. The bills are being paid and FESS along with some like minded players had "FUN" for their $14.95. The DA is not the MA and the MA is not the DA. Different kinds of fun.

And Krup's observation about learning, the DA is the TA's Masters thru PhD program if you were to logically follow the training BFM\ACM\SA path and not the combat immersion path into the MA and then SEA\AvA.

No one is wrong here as long as no one try's to belittle the other for their choice of fun. Once you start into that, you are admitting you come here for the sole purpose of being offended to grant yourself the right to revenge by verbally abusing others for not choosing to play this game your way.

Be careful that you understand "bully" is defined by forcing others into a fight both of you know they have no chance to win and could have walked or run away from. Even if you assure them you are doing them a favor while you know you are manipulating them. The manipulation is very obvious.

You pay $14.95, you have the right to fight of not fight any way you want. You don't have the right to force others to conform to your understanding of the game. That is where the vast majority of these posts end up with everyone trying to verbally exact revenge. 

[TequilaChaser]

Hitech provided different arenas for exactly what FESS did to find fun. The bills are being paid and FESS along with some like minded players had "FUN" for their $14.95. The DA is not the MA and the MA is not the DA. Different kinds of fun.

And Krup's observation about learning, the DA is the TA's Masters thru PhD program if you were to logically follow the training BFM\ACM\SA path and not the combat immersion path into the MA and then SEA\AvA.

No one is wrong here as long as no one try's to belittle the other for their choice of fun. Once you start into that, you are admitting you come here for the sole purpose of being offended to grant yourself the right to revenge by verbally abusing others for not choosing to play this game your way.

Be careful that you understand "bully" is defined by forcing others into a fight both of you know they have no chance to win and could have walked or run away from. Even if you assure them you are doing them a favor while you know you are manipulating them. The manipulation is very obvious.

You pay $14.95, you have the right to fight of not fight any way you want. You don't have the right to force others to conform to your understanding of the game. That is where the vast majority of these posts end up with everyone trying to verbally exact revenge. 

Excellent reply / post

[FESS67]

Let's bring this back on track.

The idea is that we have some sort of duelling / 1 on 1 league.  The exact details can be tweaked and worked on but my preference would be something like:

• Players sign up for the league
• The league is ranked - initially this would have to be on perception of skill level
• Players from the lower rungs of the ladder get to challenge players higher on the ladder - it could be all the way to the top or maybe just 2 or 3 places above
• Aircraft type and load out would need to be the same in the first iterations.
• Rankings are decided on who beat who.....pretty simple
• I am in favour of air spawns at random heights to add the 'chance encounter' element to the fight as well.

[bustr]

FEES's dueling league is in session. A well spent $14.95 for his type of fun.

[Simon]

I love the DA. I wish it was still swinging. In my experience, the only time a 1vs1 is boring is when it's a lopsided contest.

I won't participate in a grudge match, or try to satisfy someone's misplaced frustrations though. Being challenged by recently-vulched shade isn't something anyone should entertain. If it's a familiar handle and a polite invitation, I wouldn't hesitate.

We need BALDEAGLE to get his tourney bubbling again. Or INK to re-ignite the Dueling League.

Simon