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Offline LCADolby

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Re: Side switching
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2016, 08:09:25 AM »
You need to filter out the gang kills if you are gonna post total kills in the arena.

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Re: Side switching
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2016, 08:18:07 AM »
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Re: Side switching
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2016, 09:45:57 AM »
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Re: Side switching
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2016, 11:20:15 AM »
I think hitech already gave an answer as to why this wont help.  was a couple of years ago.


He said (paraphrasing) that low side switch times just cause ENY to swing wildly.  I frankly don't believe this to be true for prime time given how few people are actually willing to switch sides, but even if it were, if you could only switch to the lowest numbers, you'd think that the better way to look at this is that ENY would balance quickly.

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Re: Side switching
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2016, 04:06:35 PM »
ENY does work and I am a fan of it.  However when there are 20 guys total in the arena and sometimes ZERO  ( 0 ) players on a chess piece.  I for one would like to be able to go straight to that team. 

People logging out because of ENY doesn't help the gameplay it makes it worse.   

During normal hours things are different.
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Re: Side switching
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2016, 04:20:15 PM »
+1  :aok As long as game reaction time is quick enough that it can't be exploited.

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Re: Side switching
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2016, 04:55:55 PM »
+1 to the OP.
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Re: Side switching
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2016, 05:08:45 PM »
He said (paraphrasing) that low side switch times just cause ENY to swing wildly.  I frankly don't believe this to be true for prime time given how few people are actually willing to switch sides, but even if it were, if you could only switch to the lowest numbers, you'd think that the better way to look at this is that ENY would balance quickly.

ask bunnies how him and me would switch at a drop of a hat to get more kills.  we never switch to help the low side.  people who switch the low side are mostly a myth.


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Re: Side switching
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2016, 05:17:25 PM »
Consider the point at which the 6 hour switch time kicks back in. For the sake of side balancing oscillations. Do you get one more jump, then 6 hours is imposed? Or does your last jump stick you on the side you are on for 6 hours or some pro rating?

It's obvious for instant action players the low numbers times are a hair pulling experience. I don't grudge them a solution for easier searching out of fights. As the numbers pick back up and more normative group action picks up. What happens with the quick action guys and their last ability to jump and ENY?
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Re: Side switching
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2016, 06:09:01 PM »
people who switch the low side are mostly a myth.

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Re: Side switching
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2016, 06:15:07 PM »
I was playing last night as a Bish.  We were rolling bases and heavily outnumbered the other two sides.

I told the people on my side that I was going to go Rooks to give them more of a fight rather than just rolling bases.

A little while later I shot one of them down and got a very charming PM with liberal use of the F word.  I changed sides to try to even them up and the result was:

  • I got abuse
  • The fight dried up anyway as they went to easier, undefended bases.

I fully support the lowering of the side switch timer however in the time zone I play in it will not really make a difference.  The fight will melt away to some undefended corner of the map.

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Re: Side switching
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2016, 06:18:55 PM »
  people who switch the low side are mostly a myth.

Yeah, because there is a severe penalty for doing so, namely getting stuck for six hours--which REALLY sucks after the numbers flip back the other way.  Fess and I have experienced this dozens of times...
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Re: Side switching
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2016, 07:57:51 PM »
1. - don't give the community blow by blow how you are helping them. Who cares....they don't.
2. - ignore PM's. Players with balls put it on 200 and take any community reaction while entertaining the rest of the community.

A function to allow side switching at shorter intervals based on the real minimums late nights are at now has merit. If your switch to the outnumbered side results in you being a ferret with a bazooka in a hen house. No body will play with you. Not much Hitech can do about that one.
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Re: Side switching
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2016, 10:50:32 PM »
Consider the point at which the 6 hour switch time kicks back in. For the sake of side balancing oscillations. Do you get one more jump, then 6 hours is imposed? Or does your last jump stick you on the side you are on for 6 hours or some pro rating?

It's obvious for instant action players the low numbers times are a hair pulling experience. I don't grudge them a solution for easier searching out of fights. As the numbers pick back up and more normative group action picks up. What happens with the quick action guys and their last ability to jump and ENY?

First off, thanks.

Second off, I truly do not believe that there are enough people who would switch sides to cause this wild ENY swinging HiTech has talked about during prime time hours.  During early hours?  Absolutely - it would only take a few.

But, really, if we're only allowed to switch to the lowest # country...  Isn't that kind of the point of ENY?  Don't we ideally want a situation where every country has -0- ENY restrictions because there are roughly equal numbers?  :headscratch:
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Re: Side switching
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2016, 12:21:08 AM »
But, really, if we're only allowed to switch to the lowest # country...  Isn't that kind of the point of ENY?




Bustr's got his own orwellian agenda to object or show reserve at such suggestions. Ironically packaged as community service. Semp just hangs around the Wishlist poopooing every constructive suggestion that comes along. If 'HiTech said' so much the better. Some people will resist the slightest change apparently even if it doesn't affect them.

As I said before, if you don't fly at the ultra low-populated time of day, then you've got nothing to say about experiencing the issue. The motivation to do something about it is that this black hole of low player numbers is broadening on the clock according to my observations.

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