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Offline Invictus84

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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2016, 10:24:57 AM »
I don't know about you, but I don't pay $15 a month to play Monopoly or Risk. Those games also have a tight set of rules with a finite set of players, where AH is a big sandbox with shall we say "guide lines" and pretty much an unlimited number of players. In the board games you CAN do only certain things or NOT do certain things where as in AH your pretty much allowed to do anything. The problem comes about when your paying $15 a month to be able to do that thing you want and your not allowed to by ENY or a switch time restriction. Why continue to PAY $15?

Bingo.

Before I get slammed, I'm not saying I think anything should be changed.  But I understand the OP's frustration and do not understand the reactions of some to it.

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2016, 12:16:08 PM »
oh I understand, Im just playing the devils advocate here in this. Personally I fly pretty much anything there is so it really doesn't bother me. The point however is the situation, which seems to have gotten worst with the lower population is causing MORE players to leave. With many gone now, why leave something in place that can potentially chase more players away?

I don't know about you, but I don't pay $15 a month to play Monopoly or Risk. Those games also have a tight set of rules with a finite set of players, where AH is a big sandbox with shall we say "guide lines" and pretty much an unlimited number of players. In the board games you CAN do only certain things or NOT do certain things where as in AH your pretty much allowed to do anything. The problem comes about when your paying $15 a month to be able to do that thing you want and your not allowed to by ENY or a switch time restriction. Why continue to PAY $15?
I like where your argument is going > "I don't pay $15 to be repeatedly HO'd or gangbanged when I want to get a fight."
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2016, 12:49:45 PM »
I like where your argument is going > "I don't pay $15 to be repeatedly HO'd or gangbanged when I want to get a fight."

ease up on the ankle bud, I never said anything about HOin or ganging. I'm pointing out issues I believe the OP is frustrated with..... along with many other, ENY and side switch restrictions.

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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2016, 01:12:49 PM »
ease up on the ankle bud, I never said anything about HOin or ganging. I'm pointing out issues I believe the OP is frustrated with..... along with many other, ENY and side switch restrictions.

Ankle? no, just the weak ground of your argument... you didn't need to mention HOin or ganging, that's the point.
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2016, 03:22:14 PM »
Bingo.

Before I get slammed, I'm not saying I think anything should be changed.  But I understand the OP's frustration and do not understand the reactions of some to it.

Its the simple approach of "I dont care,  i just wanted to say no." Is all i can see.

I have seen many many people log off due to ENY or side switching limitations.  As said before they are at this point working against eachother.

And guess what,  when people log due this,  repeatedly,  eventually they will log for good.

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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2016, 04:16:53 PM »
Bingo.

Before I get slammed, I'm not saying I think anything should be changed.  But I understand the OP's frustration and do not understand the reactions of some to it.

You are not going to get slammed participating. You did earlier for advertising. Although it seems that those who watch the boards do not mind folks coming here to advertise.

My point about the game is it can't be changed to please everyone. Adjust to the game and you will have more fun. Learn to fly an older model plane. You'll be surprised how that will improve your skill set. You can switch to the low number side, which is part of what eny is there to do.
 
If you will not switch sides, everyone can, then ask if someone else can or will.

The 80th will be all over the place sometimes. We will usually always switch to the lower number side without anyone asking. Sometimes we switch and still can't find a fight.
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2016, 08:49:58 PM »
You are not going to get slammed participating. You did earlier for advertising. Although it seems that those who watch the boards do not mind folks coming here to advertise.

You really need to frequent other forums if you think what I did, and will continue to do as the situation warrants, consitutes advertising.   As I have said elsewhere, I have no need to do so because those games do not have a shortage of players.

As for the rest, at the end of the day each person will judge for themselves if they agree with your views about adjusting to the game and improving their skill set by flying something do not wish to.  I hope you are right.

Its the simple approach of "I dont care,  i just wanted to say no." Is all i can see.

I have seen many many people log off due to ENY or side switching limitations.  As said before they are at this point working against eachother.

And guess what,  when people log due this,  repeatedly,  eventually they will log for good.

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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2016, 10:32:12 PM »
Ankle? no, just the weak ground of your argument... you didn't need to mention HOin or ganging, that's the point.

Weak ground???? People are leaving because of this issue. You your self left, or so you said here....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380544.msg5069269.html#msg5069269


"I swapped to IL2 BoS as a filler between now and AH3s completion. No time restrictions on side swapping and the numbers are 3 times that of AH2 in our timezone. It might be worth giving it a look."

"numbers" and "no time restrictions". Looks like your only posting to hump my ankle.

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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2016, 11:08:01 PM »
You really need to frequent other forums if you think what I did, and will continue to do as the situation warrants, consitutes advertising.   As I have said elsewhere, I have no need to do so because those games do not have a shortage of players.

As for the rest, at the end of the day each person will judge for themselves if they agree with your views about adjusting to the game and improving their skill set by flying something do not wish to.  I hope you are right.

Exactly.

Advertising is advertising. I have no reason to go to other game sites.

I do go to off-road, 4WD, and jeep sites. But I get into discussions about those things and do not advertise other sites.
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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2016, 05:42:42 AM »
Weak ground???? People are leaving because of this issue. You your self left, or so you said here....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380544.msg5069269.html#msg5069269


"I swapped to IL2 BoS as a filler between now and AH3s completion. No time restrictions on side swapping and the numbers are 3 times that of AH2 in our timezone. It might be worth giving it a look."

"numbers" and "no time restrictions". Looks like your only posting to hump my ankle.

I didn't swap because of ENY, those are comparisons to help another player's issues out.
You're jumping to ankle humping simply because you cant refute that your argument is ridiculous. I can apply the same to HOing, Ganging, getting killed, and any other thing I so wish. Get a proper argument and stop looking so bloody daft, then you wont have to clutch so strong at the "ankle" line.
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2016, 09:18:46 AM »
I didn't swap because of ENY, those are comparisons to help another player's issues out.
You're jumping to ankle humping simply because you cant refute that your argument is ridiculous. I can apply the same to HOing, Ganging, getting killed, and any other thing I so wish. Get a proper argument and stop looking so bloody daft, then you wont have to clutch so strong at the "ankle" line.


And again for the reading impaired, I said nothing about the above bolded section. I just pointed out another reason...... that could be fixed with some minor adjustments..... why players are leaving. And at a time when the numbers are low already, why chase more away?

You reading in any other "agenda" is just that, YOU. I say what I say, and mean what I say, always. Some may not like it, but at least Im honest in what I say.

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« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2016, 09:49:15 AM »

And again for the reading impaired, I said nothing about the above bolded section. I just pointed out another reason...... that could be fixed with some minor adjustments..... why players are leaving. And at a time when the numbers are low already, why chase more away?

You reading in any other "agenda" is just that, YOU. I say what I say, and mean what I say, always. Some may not like it, but at least Im honest in what I say.

You argument is "I pay $15..." etc. this is what I jumped at because it can be applied to anything and everything; for example "I pay $15 a month to fly, getting killed stops me from flying. Therefore remove death from the game". See what I am getting at this time?

What you are saying is that you want to remove balance and let the more numerous players take up P51Ds and bang the less numerous. ENY restricts better airframes of the more numerous side to help the lower numbered side.

Lets have a little math game, LW airframe has 10 attack power and a MW 5ap.
Which example is more balanced for gamplay;

1.
10 LW Vs 5 LW
100ap Vs 50ap

2.
10MW Vs 5LW
50ap Vs 50ap


If you remove ENY the landslide victories of the numerous force people to log off of the lower numbered side. They can only take so many gangbangs. With ENY they stand a better chance with an aircraft advantage. Let me use your "$15" argument; They don't pay $15 to get repeatedly blown away by the bigger numbers in the best aircraft. They might just keep paying and playing with if they have a better chance with balancing airframes to the enemies numbers.

If affected by ENY and are upset you cant fly your LW ride, you have 2 other countries to switch to or 100 odd aircraft to fly in to await ENY to not have an effect on you or your aircraft. ENY sets in, it's a minor inconvenience for a short time, get over it and try another aircraft for a few sorties. It's no where near the inconvenience of the 1 guy being blown away by the 5 guys constantly.
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2016, 11:15:05 AM »
......or you can shorten up the side switch time. Now pony drivers can switch to the side that DOESNT have an ENY issue and they still get to fly their ponies with out causing an imbalance.

HTC has the numbers, but after they closed down the "dual" MAs because they were not needed due to lowering population they forgot about resetting the switch time and it was still at 1 hour. I don't remember any major ENY issues except maybe during Euro times. Again, it is the time with the lower numbers which a few players can trigger wild swings in ENY.

Yesterday afternoon Bish had a 24 ENY and an hour later Rooks had a 9. That seems like a pretty big swing to me and that is with a 6 hour limit in place. 6 hours doesn't seem to be working, maybe its time for something else.

I agree that there has to be a balancing mechanism in place, but with the dropping numbers I think the one we have is not working, and is causing players to leave, some permanently.

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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2016, 01:37:08 PM »
Advertising is advertising.

True, I guess you could consider it advertising.  But consider this:  having people from this community participate in other sim communities is not not a closed loop or a zero sum game.  Ever wonder why you hear some new players talk about how they "stumble" across Aces High?   Maybe because few here participate in other communities like you do?

I have no reason to go to other game sites.

That's your choice.  Thank you for proving my point that you have no idea what you are talking about concerning other simulation forums.






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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2016, 04:48:20 PM »
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