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Offline guncrasher

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2016, 03:48:40 AM »
I have an evga 970 with a 2500k cpu.  play ah3 with everything on except em.


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Offline popeye

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2016, 08:03:26 PM »
Just installed an EVGA GTX1060 SC Gaming

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6163-KR

Runs DX11 BETA at a mostly steady 60 fps (vsync on) with all graphic settings maxed out except post lighting turned off.  Does drop a bit in the tank gunsight.
2650 x 1440 resolution and 4096 textures.

$260US and only needs 400W PSU.  Fan is barely audible after two hours.  So far, very satisfied.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2016, 09:17:51 PM by popeye »
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Offline redcatcherb412

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2016, 10:10:01 AM »
Just replaced a gtx610 2gb ddr3 with a 750ti SC 2gb ddr5.

The 610 would only get 13fps with everything turned off.  The 750 so far I haven't seen below 55 fps and usually 59-60 with most options at default or higher.

The PC is an HP8000 8gb/quadcore that has a proprietary motherboard/power supply with non standard motherboard connecters and cables and the 320watt supply is the largest you can buy for it so that eliminated GPUs that required seperate power connections or high wattage above 320 watts. As far as I know the 750ti is the only nvidia card fast enough for AH3 with lower power requirements and no need for seperate power, just uses the PCI bus power at 60watts. It's not an expensive card either thank goodness.  You won't know unless you pop the cover if a store bought generic like HP/compaq/gateway etc has a proprietary  power setup or not, was a surprise to me when I did to make sure I had power cables for a 970 that I wanted originally, but couldn't use.
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Offline Black Jack

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2016, 10:20:06 AM »
Ok, downloaded AH3 last night and tried it out. Had to disable everything to get a 20 something FPS. This is my dxdiag. What do I need to change to be able to play. I had an idea about my video card but if I go with these GTX970, do I have to change motherboad and the whole chabang. Tks

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/21/2016, 11:07:08
       Machine name: PAT-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.160408-2045)
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System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
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Offline Bizman

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2016, 11:23:03 AM »
BlackJack, if you want to beef your current rig up, there's several things you could do relatively inexpensively.

First and foremost, your video card isn't really meant for serious gaming. It actually ranks a third lower than the baseline card, the GTX 9800 in the midrange chart. As a rule of thumb, the "tens" in the video card number tell its relative performance level in a certain generation - which is told by the "hundreds". Knowing that Nvidia cards go up to #80, #30 is on the very low side. If your budget is tight, start looking for GeForce cards scoring 3500 or more in the high end card chart. Note, though, that benchmarks only tell a relative truth. They help to get an idea about what to expect.

A DxDiag output doesn't tell anything about your power supply. You may need to upgrade that, too, if you get a powerful video card. A few years ago graphics cards used a lot power, the new ones not so much. Check the manufacturer's specs for power supply requirement.

If you get a monster video card, your processor will cause a bottleneck. CPU's fitting your motherboard were made up to 3.3 GHz, you may find one quite inexpensively second hand.

Also, your memory is a little on the low side although it's about at the maximum for a 32 bit operating system. Filling the slots with 2 GB sticks and reinstalling Win7 as 64 bit might boost the overall performance of your computer.

As you see, a full rebuild might be easier to do. If your budget allows for it, that would be the best alternative. However, if you like tinkering and can get the spare parts next to free, the above is what I know works quite well.
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Offline mbailey

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2016, 11:29:18 AM »
lol  I can tell you it wont work with my system.....No vid card just an integrated vid chip. Actually this ran AHII.  My comp wont even launch the beta. (let me rephrase that....If it does work ill never figure out how to make it work  :rofl )     

Guess its time to bite the bullet and get a better system.

Time of this report: 8/21/2016, 12:20:15
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2016, 04:00:15 PM »
what do we think is the best bang for English pounds between the 6gig 1060, the 8gb 480X or the cheaper  970's? 

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2016, 04:23:21 PM »
1060 hands down.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2016, 04:37:03 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on August 15, 2016, 01:03:09 PM
With the arrival of the Nvidia GTX 1070, the prices have dropped on the GTX 970 cards which is more than enough to run AH3 with all the bells and whistles.
You would think.  I have a 980TI and I get stutters in AH3 with all the bells and whistles. My processor is a i7-4790K at 4.0 GHz
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2016, 06:27:18 PM »
I have a GTX670. you can get them for under $200 and I can run with just about everything on and stay in the 50s
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2016, 09:14:17 PM »
Quote from: Skuzzy on August 13, 2016, 11:16:28 AM
I would be more interested in what card your computer has and why you feel like it needs to be upgraded.  Just for informational purposes.

I have a E8400 @ 3GHz with a Radeon HD7870 2GB.  The reason I feel I will need to build a new system around at least a GTX1070 is that I mostly GV.  I have no problem with frame rates when flying above a few hundred feet, but that's not what I do.  I drive tanks in jungles, forests, and towns and I often use maximum zoom in the commanders view and gunsight view.  This places way more stress on the graphics card than flying as it renders trees and buildings at close quarters and high detail.  Worst case is trying to defend an AH3 town from attacking tanks.  With all the detailed buildings and trees in the view, I often get frame rates as low as 12 to 15.  That makes aiming very difficult with high stutter.  This is with Tree Detail set at 18%, Object Detail at 50%, and Detail Range at about 1.7 miles and with Shadows off and EM=0.  In other words with eye candy turned way down.  If I turn shadows on and increase Object and Tree Detail my frame rates are single digit.  Since I don't want eye candy turned down, I will be building a new system once the price and availability of GTX1070s get better.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2016, 10:19:15 PM »
Quote from: 715 on August 21, 2016, 09:14:17 PM
I have a E8400 @ 3GHz with a Radeon HD7870 2GB.  The reason I feel I will need to build a new system around at least a GTX1070 is that I mostly GV.  I have no problem with frame rates when flying above a few hundred feet, but that's not what I do.  I drive tanks in jungles, forests, and towns and I often use maximum zoom in the commanders view and gunsight view.  This places way more stress on the graphics card than flying as it renders trees and buildings at close quarters and high detail.  Worst case is trying to defend an AH3 town from attacking tanks.  With all the detailed buildings and trees in the view, I often get frame rates as low as 12 to 15.  That makes aiming very difficult with high stutter.  This is with Tree Detail set at 18%, Object Detail at 50%, and Detail Range at about 1.7 miles and with Shadows off and EM=0.  In other words with eye candy turned way down.  If I turn shadows on and increase Object and Tree Detail my frame rates are single digit.  Since I don't want eye candy turned down, I will be building a new system once the price and availability of GTX1070s get better.


I have the same card and run a solid 60fps.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2016, 12:34:52 AM »
Quote from: WEZEL on August 21, 2016, 10:19:15 PM

I have the same card and run a solid 60fps.

Like I said, I get 60 fps when flying too.  What do you get deep in a CraterMA forest or town with the zoomed tank sight view?  Still 60?
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2016, 02:24:19 AM »
E8500 and a HD6970 2GB here, 715. I've noticed the same low altitude frame rates, although I don't do GV'ing much. Since the E8400 is very cheap now as used, you might try overclocking. I run mine @3.8 GHz by increasing the bus speed to 400 in the BIOS. Can't really tell any major difference, though.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2016, 04:44:38 PM »
Quote from: Chalenge on August 21, 2016, 04:23:21 PM
1060 hands down.

how come I have to pay £240 English pounds for this card when you can get it for $250 dollars.   Is this Brexit at work?? or are we still getting ripped off??     
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